MOA or MRAD, & Why?

[TeacherMan]

Looking at a couple of different Vortex scopes, they come in MOA or MRAD. This will be the first time I've used an adjustable scope, building a mid-grade distance rifle. Basically, doing what my budget can afford. What would you choose and why? Or does it matter if you have the conversions and app?

[Mtnwalker]

I still shoot MOA but it seems like mils are gaining more and more popularity in the long range hunting world. Supposedly it is a more intuitive system I just haven't taken the time to learn it

[HUNT JR]

In my mind it really does not matter if you are using a rangefinder that provides ballistics. I use MOA and it works for me. I can convert the MOA numbers pretty quickly and have no issues.

I think Mil's is technically fewer "clicks" as .1 mil is .36 or whatever inches at 100 and most scopes are 1/4 moa so about .25 inches at 100 so when you dial out you spin the turret a little less.

I think you pick a system and learn it as they both can be effective.

[bowman]

Mil is a lot easier for wind brackets and there is a pretty cool quick drop method with mils that works for a lot of cartridges to mid distances.

[jrebel]

I’m a MOA guy and I have to many scopes to change at this point.  To me it is super easy, but that’s because that’s what I’ve learned in.   MRAD guys will tell the MRAD is the only way to go.  When I have ask them why?  It’s the same answer, because it’s easier??   

Pick your poison and learn it well….either will work. 

[pickardjw]

I switched from MOA to MILS and have been liking it. Dialing 3.2 is harder to mess up than 14.25. And no one is shooting the difference in precision of 0.1 MIL adjustments vs 0.25 MOA adjustments so that isn't a factor.

I use wind brackets but don't use quick drop. Rifle is too fast for it and I'm getting a solution from my rangefinder anyway.

I was MIL curious but never fully grasped why others preferred it until I listened to this.

[Antlershed]

The only “MRAD is easier” argument I’ve heard is that it’s easier to do calculations on the fly. I use a Sig 8k rangefinder that’s giving me my adjustments, so I’m not trying to solve complex math equations on the fly.  I’ve always shot MOA scopes, so that’s what I continue to use. It’s easy for me to see 4.86 MOA from the Sig and decide if I want to dial 4.75 or 5. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[JakeLand]

Look into the leupold CDS scopes once they’re set and your turret is made it’s easy simple and accurate

[TeacherMan]

Look into the leupold CDS scopes once they’re set and your turret is made it’s easy simple and accurate

I have, they are close but dont have the dial out distance I’m wanting.

[EnglishSetter]

Look into the leupold CDS scopes once they’re set and your turret is made it’s easy simple and accurate

I have, they are close but dont have the dial out distance I’m wanting.

45 MOA isn't enough??? They have 1, 2 & 3 turn CDS dial available.

[addicted1]

I prefer Mrad because I can “quickly” calculate conversions since everything is base 10. Like using the metric system to convert between units. But, since we are Americans and used to Yards and inches, MOA seems to be more familiar to people here including myself. I think you’ll have no issue with either setup. I guess it depends how far your looking to shoot and what your shooting.

[CarbonHunter]

I shoot MOA, mainly because I always have and I’ve never had any issues making the “calculations” given I measure stuff in feet and inches not decimeters and centimeters. And yards verse meters is close enough in my book when using those measurements.

The only real calculations I do is attempt to measure antlers using the reticle in my spotter or rifle scope. Measuring them in MOA is the way we all talk so I figure it’s easier than measuring them in the metric system then running a calculation to convert that to inches. I have never heard it said that the ears on a muley are 55.88 centimeters wide but the world is changing so maybe you guys are on a bandwagon I don’t feel like jumping on. 

[TeacherMan]

Look into the leupold CDS scopes once they’re set and your turret is made it’s easy simple and accurate

I have, they are close but dont have the dial out distance I’m wanting.

45 MOA isn't enough??? They have 1, 2 & 3 turn CDS dial available.

I guess I was looking at a cheaper one. It maxed my 338 at 700 yards when I looked.

[HntnFsh]

Depends if you have a 200 yard zero or 100 yard zero

[Antlershed]

The CDS dials are also set for a specific altitude, so depending on how many different places/times of year you hunt, it may not always be accurate, or you have to get multiple dials.