Winthrop wolves

[mountainman]

Well, just might be the year for the Methow to experience what just happened in Colorado. There were some close call's in the decades I lived there and just recently too.  There is a good reason for what is called "predator control"!   The pioneers understood its meaning!!   Educated past their intelligence people don't!

Oh ya, knowing one of the original sno groomers operators, all you skinny stick skiers running the trails at night,  should look behind you once in a while!!!

The term “predator control” disappeared there in the late 80’s.
Numbers were kept more under control prior to then.
And the deer herd was huge!

[timberfaller]

 

Had a WDFW gal try and tell me that climate change is what destroyed the Methow herd.   She even believed the Mule deer in the Methow didn't migrate if the snow levels(brisket deep) didn't happen and move them from the high country.  But then, the ranchers you know, were stealing water from the salmon and loggers were destroying Spotted Owl habitat!!

[bigmacc]

Well, just might be the year for the Methow to experience what just happened in Colorado. There were some close call's in the decades I lived there and just recently too.  There is a good reason for what is called "predator control"!   The pioneers understood its meaning!!   Educated past their intelligence people don't!

Oh ya, knowing one of the original sno groomers operators, all you skinny stick skiers running the trails at night,  should look behind you once in a while!!!

The term “predator control” disappeared there in the late 80’s.
Numbers were kept more under control prior to then.
And the deer herd was huge!

All true👍

Now they are nurturing the predator population to keep deer numbers down. Thats the only reason I can see for why wolves, cats and bears are being so coddled. Like many have said, it’s going to take more unfortunate events with humans, livestock and pets before they wake up. Funny you bring up the “skinny stick skiers”, a friend of mine ran into a couple a few years ago while checking his cameras, he told the two skiers to keep an eye open because he had seen fresh wolf tracks close by, there response basically was they have never seen a wolf or a cat in the 10 years they’ve lived in the valley and for that matter didn’t believe the issue was relevant. My buddies response was, that’s the problem, you won’t see them until it’s to late, he went on to tell them that he was surrounded by a pack of wolves back when he was a young man in Alaska and ended up killing two of them at 20 yards, he didn’t even know they were there until he heard one growl AND his head was always on a swivel while he was out and about up there, if that one wolf wouldn’t have growled he told them he would have probably been dinner. They ended up saying they weren’t concerned, it’s a lot of hype.

[nwwanderer]

All of the great ideas for cat safety, spray, gun, size, group and more go out the window if the cat decides, rare to know before it is to late.  Be careful out there

[Mtnwalker]

Had a WDFW gal try and tell me that climate change is what destroyed the Methow herd.   She even believed the Mule deer in the Methow didn't migrate if the snow levels(brisket deep) didn't happen and move them from the high country.  But then, the ranchers you know, were stealing water from the salmon and loggers were destroying Spotted Owl habitat!!

Well, the deer are certainly paying the price for the changing political climate in WA so she's not entirely wrong

[ghosthunter]

The end game is to eliminate all hunting and fishing.  The 2 A isn’t about hunting, but a lot gun owners have them to hunt. No hunting no need. Gun stores will be effected too. No hunting no sales or a big dent in sales.

There is no down side to them protecting predators as far as their agenda. They don’t care and no amount of attacks will change their mind. We are a dying breed and they want us gone by any means necessary. Cougars, wolves, bears are just one tool in their box.


Hunting tags fall off and they will argue that it’s not needed any longer or not effective.
 
They got Spring Bear cancelled, if anyone try’s to bring it back their will be lawsuits for years.
 
Now we have quotas on cougars, it’s just a step towards the end.

Wolves will never be unlisted.