Oregon ballot measure to ban hunting, trapping, and ranching

[GeoSwan]

An organization to "end animal cruelty" in Oregon is currently 30,000 signatures away from landing on the ballot in that state with a signature deadline of July.
Here's their website: https://www.yesonip28.org/

Here's the thing: This bullcrap will never pass, but the fact that as of now this is even close to landing on the ballot should scare the ever living crap out of every hunter in the country.

[EnglishSetter]

Another "I made this choice so I will make yours too".

I suggest they pool their funds, go buy some land and feed their own with fruits, vegetables and grains and use no animal products. 

Show us how you're thriving in 10-20 years.  Maybe we'll come around.   

[trophyhunt]

How many hunters on here vote democrat?  If the democrats weren't in control of Wa and Or maybe we could make hunting and fishing a constitutional right like other states have done? Someday, I hope people will come to their senses. 

[timberfaller]

I know more R's then D's,  the D's I know are ok people but boy are they dense between the ears!!

No amount of TRUTH can change their outlook on life and reality's.

Anti this, anti that, fits perfect with the left lean-ers.

[ghosthunter]

Another reason to stay vigilant in this state or any state you live in. I try to keep up on who’s funding this crap. And do my best not to give them my money . It is difficult sometimes.

For instance the Seahawks owner , that Allen gal, was donating to Washington Wild Life first.
Easy for me I don’t follow sports. So no money there from me. Dicks Sporting Goods in my area was donating to anti gunners so I never went in that store. They closed end of the year .
Tractor Supply is across the street from Coastal in Mount Vernon. But tractor supply is anti 2A and no gun sales in their store, so I only use Coastal. It’s small but it’s my part.

I think fisherman are the most detached, you don’t see that group getting riled up as much. But anyone who consumes animals, birds or fish should be concerned. These groups will never go away and pick us off little by little, spring bear, pheasant release, gun laws, flooding waterfowl areas, marine mammals , salmon hatchery closures. It’s all just nick ,nick,nick.

Coming to your state sooner than you think.

[elkboy]

Ghosthunter, I agree-  some groups, like the Portland anti-hunting purists, put it all on the line with near-impossible ballot initiatives like the IP3 or IP28 efforts.  Of course, most in society won't swallow that big a bite.  The real danger is the steady and less perceptible encroachment- a bit here, a bit there.  Spring bear in WA was a key example of that. 

[mikey549]

Just so you know. John Stanton owns the Mariners and Jody Allen owns the Seahawks. Like you , I try to pay attention to who is writing checks to take away from what we have done our whole life. Ditto on Dick’s and Tractor Supply. Some of the worst in my opinion are the pro wolf people that prey on the heart strings of every little old lady with propaganda of shooting them into extinction while selling them socks and blankets. I am sure they pound the narrative of making them believe that their cash donations are so crucial!

[GWP]

The worst is all the idiots that are fleeing the craphole States THEY ruined are now going to the States that are ‘easy going’ just like Western Washington and Western Oregon were back in the 70’s and 80’s when they moved there and their voting destroyed those cities. And the cities have more voters than the rural area. So there you go.
More States will fall by ‘city folk’ unfortunately. I doubt any are safe from what I have seen in my life. It sucks.

[Boss .300 winmag]

Reference for Tractor Supply being anti 2nd amendment?

[Buzzsaw461]

Wouldn’t say it won’t pass. For God’s sake Seattle just voted in a communist mayor. Never underestimate a Democrat voter’s lunacy.

[ghosthunter]

Just so you know. John Stanton owns the Mariners and Jody Allen owns the Seahawks. Like you , I try to pay attention to who is writing checks to take away from what we have done our whole life. Ditto on Dick’s and Tractor Supply. Some of the worst in my opinion are the pro wolf people that prey on the heart strings of every little old lady with propaganda of shooting them into extinction while selling them socks and blankets. I am sure they pound the narrative of making them believe that their cash donations are so crucial!

You right I will amend. Thanks

[ghosthunter]

Reference for Tractor Supply being anti 2nd amendment?

My only reference was what I was told by a store employee when they opened the Mount Vernon store. I asked if they had a gun counter the employee said they were anti firearm sales. That was several years ago. I have only been in the store a couple times since.

The company has not came straight out against 2 A in their stated policies, but up till 2024 supported much of the liberal rhetoric as far as non traditional conservative base. After complaints from rural America , around 2024 they stopped supporting woke or DEI policies .

[mikey549]

I am with you on that. I only have second hand info on them . Dick’s let it be known. Tractor Supply never did sell guns in the Kelso store!

[HunterStrait]

Even if it reached 30k signatures its probably not going to do a damn thing, its genuinely stupid and would tank the state's economy. It wouldn't even be enforceable because these people are already a minority.

[EnglishSetter]

I am with you on that. I only have second hand info on them . Dick’s let it be known. Tractor Supply never did sell guns in the Kelso store!

I somewhat frequent TS.  I've never seen anything anti-2A.  So they don't sell guns and ammo?  Criminy, is that the new threshold?

[HntnFsh]

I am with you on that. I only have second hand info on them . Dick’s let it be known. Tractor Supply never did sell guns in the Kelso store!

I somewhat frequent TS.  I've never seen anything anti-2A.  So they don't sell guns and ammo?  Criminy, is that the new threshold?

So 1 person in 1 store said they are anti firearm sales. Not a good indicator on where the owner stands on the 2nd. Being anti firearm sales could just mean there is not enough profit or its too complicated to sell firearms in their stores. I use TS fairly often. Have had great customer service through them and they made me a great deal on my Liberty gun safe a few years ago. Then knocked another $250 off of that when it didnt show up on time.

[Elkaholic daWg]

Western states when it comes to insanity........"HOLD MY BEER"...

[nwwanderer]

Is this the third or fourth go around for IP28?  Persistent bunch, think when you sign petitions and vote

[Mike450r]

Trying to get enough signature several times and failing shows the lack of support.  Even if they get the 117k signatures there will be some that get audited out so they will want a to get a percentage more for surety.

I almost want it to happen to see how badly it fails, but only almost.  Having them fall short on signatures again is obviously the best thing.

[TeacherMan]

Sounds like a quick way to finally divide the state once and for all...

[Tball77]

This thread should exist on all sections of this forum so it cannot be missed. You do all understand that this bill pretty much takes away ranching,  hatcheries, hunting, fishing, and I suggest no matter what state you live in to blow this up to make sure that it not only doesn’t receive the signatures but that voters read the fine print.  The person advocating this bill is a liberal substitute teacher who obviously wants socialism. 

[hughjorgan]

This thread should exist on all sections of this forum so it cannot be missed. You do all understand that this bill pretty much takes away ranching,  hatcheries, hunting, fishing, and I suggest no matter what state you live in to blow this up to make sure that it not only doesn’t receive the signatures but that voters read the fine print.  The person advocating this bill is a liberal substitute teacher who obviously wants socialism.

Don’t forget pest control or even e collars for training dogs or breeding critters etc

[EnglishSetter]

This thread should exist on all sections of this forum so it cannot be missed. You do all understand that this bill pretty much takes away ranching,  hatcheries, hunting, fishing, and I suggest no matter what state you live in to blow this up to make sure that it not only doesn’t receive the signatures but that voters read the fine print.  The person advocating this bill is a liberal substitute teacher who obviously wants socialism.

Don’t forget pest control or even e collars for training dogs or breeding critters etc

My dogs get SOOOOOO excited when the e-collars come out.

[pianoman9701]

Western states when it comes to insanity........"HOLD MY BEER"...

No kidding. How anyone could vote for these people is completely unbelievable.
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,295565.0.html

[pickardjw]

Just finished listening to the GoHunt podcast where they had the former president of the Oregon Cattlemen’s Association on. Sounds like some groups proposed a bill to amend the petition process so signatures had to be gathered in all counties in the state. But it never made it to the floor.

That’s the kind of offense we should be thinking about!

Having major population center voting blocs controlling the politics of the entire state is only going to get worse.

[Brute]

That’s the kind of offense we should be thinking about!
Having major population center voting blocs controlling the politics of the entire state is only going to get worse.

Maybe it should be one county one vote on these kind of things. Then the population centers wouldn't be controlling the whole state.

[baldopepper]

Well, problem is the major population centers are the financial drivers for the state. King county, as an example, only gets back 27 cents for every dollar paid to the state coffers and Stevens county gets $2.00 back for every dollar paid in. As much as we hate the population centers controlling government most of our east side counties would have a difficult time without their money.

[Humptulips]

Both sides get interviewed.
https://x.com/beefinitiative/status/2023905250315477176?s=46&t=kq--SzkcyJrqPoNGyM3K4Q

[trophyhunt]

That’s the kind of offense we should be thinking about!
Having major population center voting blocs controlling the politics of the entire state is only going to get worse.

Maybe it should be one county one vote on these kind of things. Then the population centers wouldn't be controlling the whole state.

I think it should be an electoral vote for all elections like you are saying! 

[CarbonHunter]

This thread should exist on all sections of this forum so it cannot be missed. You do all understand that this bill pretty much takes away ranching,  hatcheries, hunting, fishing, and I suggest no matter what state you live in to blow this up to make sure that it not only doesn’t receive the signatures but that voters read the fine print.  The person advocating this bill is a liberal substitute teacher who obviously wants socialism.

Don’t forget pest control or even e collars for training dogs or breeding critters etc

Just shows how ludicrous these groups are when they would consider banning pest control. I say pass it and when all the cities are overrun with rodents spreading diseases we can sit back and say “told you so”. The only way to stop the democrats wave of control is for one of these crackpot ideas to completely blow up in their faces and Oregon might be ready to show the rest of the world the truth behind their causes.

[Brute]

Was on Outdoor GPS last Sunday.
Amy Patrick of OHA (Oregon Hunters Association).
She said she saw ballot petitioners at the Oregon state fair. You think they will even be able to have county fairs or a state fair if it passes?

[vandeman17]

I watched that same video. She did a good job explaining just how insane this all is and how many hidden elements there are in it.

[DaNewb]

I just read through their website...those people are lunatics.

[timberfaller]

People need to remember what WE here in WA, have had taken away from US through ballot initiatives!!

Oregon suffers just like we do!!  Big city's are full of ignorant voters who over time encroach into rural areas and still vote and are clueless about outdoors and wildlife!

I live in East Wen. since leaving the Methow and love seeing the coyotes run the streets at night, then see posters up on power poles about missing pet cats and small dogs. Had one of the biggest Owl's in a tree in my front yard a couple of years ago, same thing happened and my squirrel population dropped like a rock too!!  Get a big grin on my face when I hear them hooting at night!

[Mike450r]

First it has to get enough signatures.  Many signatures will be from people who didn't know what they were signing and would have otherwise voted "no", also many that do not vote.

If, big if, it gets on the ballot, it has zero chance.

[hughjorgan]

Last I saw this initiative already had 105k signatures of the 117k needed. They’ll make the ballot the question is how many people will vote yes on it? My bet is there will be far more yes votes than any body thinks.

[CarbonHunter]

I bet it gets the signatures it needs and I bet the left puts up a good ad campaign to mislead the voters as to what is really in the bill. These groups will put up commercials showing starving dogs and unethical hunters wounding animals and more. The hunting rights groups will be outspent by a large margin and Oregon is liberal and for the most part dumb so they will vote for the starving dogs as they see it 🤮

[Brute]

https://oregonhunters.org/initiative-petition-28-2/

[GWP]

How soon people forget about the 'Anti Hound Hunting' ballot measure that passed many years ago.
Yes, it very well could pass.