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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2009, 08:45:14 PM »
He had his head in there a few minutes ago. We will get him tonight and do a hard release tomorrow. That's the plan anyways. He may have other ideas.

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2009, 08:48:39 PM »
take lots of pics.

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2009, 08:52:04 PM »
What is a "hard release"  ???

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2009, 09:11:24 PM »
A hard release is when they release them right where they catch them. We will wheel the trap into a position so it can see the house, then they will raise the gate. As the bear emerges they shoot it with bean bag loads out of shotguns, light off something like an M80, then turn Mishka the Bear dog on it. Hopefully it will get the idea this isn't a place it wants to be. They will tranquilize and ear tag it first.

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2009, 09:14:45 PM »
Well that should be a fun thing to watch.   :chuckle:

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2009, 09:43:04 PM »
A hard release is when they release them right where they catch them. We will wheel the trap into a position so it can see the house, then they will raise the gate. As the bear emerges they shoot it with bean bag loads out of shotguns, light off something like an M80, then turn Mishka the Bear dog on it. Hopefully it will get the idea this isn't a place it wants to be. They will tranquilize and ear tag it first.

 :chuckle: :chuckle: who dreams this psychological bull *censored* up?? :chuckle: :chuckle:
I read that...and LMFAO you got to be kidding???
how about just bring in a licensed bonded and ultimately a "good shot" hunter to take care of business?? .....no no, must waist taxpayer dollars!!!!! :bash:

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2009, 10:09:18 PM »
I think their on the clock anyways BK. So you think they should just shoot them all? Who's money is going to pay for the license/bonded shooter  :dunno: If someone shot you in the ass and sicked a dog on you you might think twice about returning. I could have waited 3 weeks and taken care of it myself but I didn't feel like shooting a 75 pounder and I want to let my kids and dog go out without worrying about it.

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2009, 10:38:37 PM »
NO NO I don't thing you should shoot them all!! I just get a laugh out of the whole bean bag, dog , shotgun approach!! I mean, come on do you really thing you are going to scare this bear?? man that lil  guy will be back in a day!! if I were to expel that kind of energy and time to catch him, why not drive up in to the mountains 50 miles away or so, and drop him off? (relocate)
 as far as bringing in a shooter, that "will" happen once that bear starts becoming a threat!! remember bears are very intelligent animals, and once he's figured out "bean bags" don't kill!! let alone hurt :chuckle: he will lose his fear of man and gun

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2009, 10:46:06 PM »
I guess the way I'm looking at this one is that this is the bears one and only chance before it gets taken out for good. We'll see what happens. If it comes back I'll take care of it myself, legally of course.

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2009, 10:53:14 PM »
Quite opposite BK Dave, I watched my F & G bud pound a couple Griz 2 year olds in similar fashion in Eagle River Ak, never returned that year.  Those bean bags come out of a similar gun to the old M-79 (for all you older Military guys) in 38mm size though...  They litterally knock the *censored* out of the bears with them.  They didn't have the dogs like here, but what I saw worked for 350lb griz, I sure the 70lb blackie will feel it in the morning when he gets pounded.. And not want to return...  Also the guys that worked for me in our Fish and Game section utilized same method for problem trash bears on Ft Richardson, something about getting thumped by a 2 lbs bean bag that kept them from returning.

On the flip side AK F & G released a collared blackie and tracked it and posted it over the internet several years ago, it actually swam across the Turnagin Arm from the Kenai Pennisula and was back in Anchorage garbage cans three days later, talk about a GPS system...

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2009, 10:53:47 PM »
I'd like to see some statistics on the hard release concept. I've heard that it does work with many Bears. The younger the better is what I've heard. Still, I'd like to see the numbers of success. He's too little to kill. If there's a way to make him afraid of humans and not go for the easy food of bird feeders on the decks of homes, I'm all for it. One try, then relocation to a far away place where little Bears can grow up to be bigger Bears. We are encroaching on their habitat. Give the little guy a chance.

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2009, 11:08:20 PM »
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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2009, 11:11:21 PM »
 :chuckle:

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2009, 06:55:17 AM »
My all time favorite commerical.... 

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Re: Trouble Maker
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2009, 10:19:06 AM »
Look an Eagle!!!   (Swift kick in the junk)... 
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