First tribal elk kill of the summer?

[matlockmike]

This kind of crap happens all the time in my 'neck of the woods'.  Makes me sick just think about it.

Nieghbor is an Indian with hunting rights.  To see him running after the elk around my house from Aug to March is just about enough too make me take the law in my own hands.    My wife is the voice of reason though.  She keeps me out of jail.

[royalbull]

reincarnate Custer

[NoBark]

If we could only embaress the tribe enough with bad publicity........


Hey guys, it boils down to a very common problem within our society today.
Doesn't fall on any one race either.

It's the ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY that has swept our land. Be it a house, a car,
a job, a TV or in this case, a few animals.......Uncle Sam owes them.   

[mrgoodwrench]

I thought I had better make it clear that the indian hunters involved in Humptulips were not Hoh members like the Forks incident.  The ones I mentioned were half assed Quinault members.....supposedly you can be 'adopted' into a tribe and that is what these guys were.  Adopted or not they've obviously adopted the local tribes hunting ethics.  I can honestly say that if I were a tribal member I would hunt that long ass season....and I'd kill a few elk, but I wouldn't waste them and I wouldn't shoot cows and calves.  The herd they shot up is now down to 13 cows, no bulls and no yearling calves....hopefully those cows have all dropped calves this year...and I know there is one older bull in the area.

The two guys who witnessed this incident and reported it to the company I work for were out predator hunting when the herd of elk they were watching started dropping.....I had to praise them for not firing a few flat shooting varmint rounds at some heads....don't think I'd have that much restraint.!

[nwhunter]

Bad publicity that may put presssure on the tribe is the only thing that may help that is why I posted this. The Hoh tribe has some very infamous tribal hunters in our area that kill 10 plus mature bulls every year in Sept with rifles and I can only hope that the tribe someday will step up and put a stop to it but I doubt it. And this isn't a racist issue I feel the same way about poachers. And no " I wouldn't do it if I could". I bow hunt and can legally shoot does but do to the fact that our deer numbers are way down I never shoot does here. The tribal hunter in this incident obviously didn't leave the animal to rot nor was that implied. Pretty easy to shoot one close to the hwy this time of year and supposedly it was for a ceremonial use so sure it went to use we hope but whats wrong with prime rib? nwhunter

[littlebuf]

im tired of the "ceremonial" excuse, these indians are just a bunch of trash out wasting and destroying OUR (as in everybody's) wild game. there's no ceremony our ancient tradition, its just a bunch of garbage out out killing what ever the hell moves and calling them selves great warrior hunters. my ass, go to hell 

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Just another good reason we ALL need to keep camera's handy. A few pictures in the press is better than just discussing it with real sportsmen. Let's sic the anti's on the tribes so they will leave us alone!

[alanger]

Just another good reason we ALL need to keep camera's handy. A few pictures in the press is better than just discussing it with real sportsmen. Let's sic the anti's on the tribes so they will leave us alone!

 

When i go hunting i always carry some sort of camera to take pictures even if it would be my phone, did last year and it payed off. caught a poacher.

[CP]

I guess that I’m not feeling the outrage about this.  A hunter with a legal permit killed a small bull; I can’t fault the guy for that.  I don’t think photos of the act would stir up public outrage any more than photos of one of us taking a legal bull.  Killing cows in July doesn’t make sense, they have calves now.  Don’t get me wrong, I’m not for special privileges based on ethnicity but this action was at least legal, unlike a lot of native hunting & fishing that goes on.

[logger]

Nobark hit on the head, It is a sense of entitelment, not just indians but society in general feels their owed something for just existing.I see native pride alot in my bus. and some do have pride but sadly most don't.Look at their casino's nice beautiful building and every thing around it is a clap shack, you would think the powers that be would try to improve thier image and make them clean up. I don't think that it is possible to embarass them or the white guy for that matter alot of em on both sides of the race card were brought up that way as being normal.I see this in my own family some are yakimas and 1/2 have good jobs,nice house's and hunt like everybody else, the other half waits for there check to come every mo. they are nice people but see nothing wrong with what thier doing.

[Timmybob]

 What a bummer ! My mother told me that If I don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all! So..............................

[elkkiller]

If we could only embaress the tribe enough with bad publicity........


Hey guys, it boils down to a very common problem within our society today.
Doesn't fall on any one race either.

It's the ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY that has swept our land. Be it a house, a car,
a job, a TV or in this case, a few animals.......Uncle Sam owes them.  

 THe tribe would not be embaressed, they would just take another swig of whiskey and keep right on shooting and wasting animals. I have seen this waste time and again. They have ruined a lot of good hunting areas to the point of the areas are totally ruined and the animals are totally wiped out . I wish we could keep stop all this wasting, but to many butt- kisser's in office that won't do anything about.

[Yak-NDN]

This is a bunch of sh** I have heard of all your stories and the issues with the Indians, I know that there are issues but there are just as big of issues with non Indians and all you want to cry about are the Tribal issues. The biggest problem on the rez are non Tribal hunters. Like I said before lets go 50/50 there would be more elk, did you see how long the state got to fish for springer's this year? They caught their share in the mater of weeks and only one or two gill net seasons below the dam, Ya that might be a little info for some of you the state has a gill net season below the dam. You all better get your rascal remarks and cheap shots in before the thread gets shut down. You all seem to get a green light on whatever you want to say until some one wants to point out what a bunch of sh** it is. I am on my way to bald mountain today bring your cameras and a friend to help load em up You people piss me off.  I wrote this in a hurry and didn't have time the check it please excuse the mistakes.

[coachcw]

I'm ok with If an indain wants to  tribal hunt , if thats what it really is, If an Indian is performing a tribale hunt in the manner his ancestors did I'm ok with it. But to drive his new ford truck into the center of a feed lot and take out his 300mag and pop a big bull Is *censored*. Thats Intittlement. When Do we get together as sportsman both state and tribal anf fix this problem. As far as any one else that poaches we should work as a comunity and take care of those *censored*s too. I found a bull three years ago that had his hind quarters cut off with his horn too.I was so pissed off that I could hardly hunt . when i found out that it was a Yakima indain that did it I was really dissipointed in our system . We as sportsman have worked way to hard and spent way too much money preserving the herds to have anyone waste animals. wrong is wrong no matter ho you are. I'm really sorry  and embarassed about the way our ansestors treated the Indains but it's about time to get over it the world isn't fair nor has it even beeen , lets start living as a whole group do what's really important and protect our beautifull wildlife . thanks for letting me vent Coach

[elkkiller]

This is a bunch of sh** I have heard of all your stories and the issues with the Indians, I know that there are issues but there are just as big of issues with non Indians and all you want to cry about are the Tribal issues. The biggest problem on the rez are non Tribal hunters. Like I said before lets go 50/50 there would be more elk, did you see how long the state got to fish for springer's this year? They caught their share in the mater of weeks and only one or two gill net seasons below the dam, Ya that might be a little info for some of you the state has a gill net season below the dam. You all better get your rascal remarks and cheap shots in before the thread gets shut down. You all seem to get a green light on whatever you want to say until some one wants to point out what a bunch of sh** it is. I am on my way to bald mountain today bring your cameras and a friend to help load em up You people piss me off.  I wrote this in a hurry and didn't have time the check it please excuse the mistakes.
The truth does hurt , so man up and deal with it! As for as it goes for non-Indian issues at least we can do something about that. But when a Indian goes and blows everthing away and gets caught Illegally POACHING OFF THE REZ. NOTHING IS DONE. PERIOD! If a Indian wants to hunt like their ancestor's than hunt the way they did. NO MODERN WEAPONS! When was the last time the tribal hunters did anything to improve hunting long term and maintain that? I thought so.