First tribal elk kill of the summer?

[Whitefoot]

Yep!  I know your in Idaho that's y I said that krazy! Lol!  Thot you wer kumming down 2 hunt this year?  What the eff.. ha ha.. playing..     

[BULLBLASTER]

Yep! all you guys are doing is making your self mad!   All this negativity isn't helping your cause by bashing Indians....   

+1

[buckhorn2]

I thank you for answering my question Yak it was something that I wondered about how your enforcement worked. And Whitefoot some of the best friends I ever had were treaty  people so I am glad your back again it;s hard to see the other side if there is[nt somethere. Ive been kicking back too so I guess were alot the same. Hope the post stays civil both sides can give information on magagment it;s what we all hope for and help with the wolf issue if you can.

[furbearer365]

F*** tribal hunting and anyone who supports it.  It is very cut and dry for me, noone on this earth owns the fish and game of Washington state and should not get ANY advanced treatment for any reason.  We all have ancestors and are not demanding the right to practice their traditions that may have an effect on others and possibly their livelihood.  How hard is it to buy an over-the-counter tag and hunt like everyone else.  Isn't it enough that you get Reservations and other tribal advantages.  I don't see the government setting aside millions of acres for "my people."  If you believe in TRIBAL HUNTING, eat s***.

[Whitefoot]

Uhhh furbear... Ceeded land is what was suppose to the rez.. The whole rez... that's why it's called ceeded now..   No need be talking that way!   you juss make your self look bad..

Yeah I'm sure I will be on here a little more..  Because a lot of B.S is being said on here and it's not even true..  People juss can get on here and say anything and it's not even true.. Gets annoying.

[huntnphool]

Yeah I'm sure I will be on here a little more..  Because a lot of B.S is being said on here and it's not even true..

 So are you saying that the quote and picture in post # 43 is BS and not true?

[boneaddict]

When I said progress 6x6, I meant the dialogue between folks on here.  Just the fact that whitefoot and company can be on here without being threatened to be shot behind the ear while out harvesting a truckload of elk is progress I think. 

39 still has a lot of game Andrew.  Try a little farther north in the Dworskak  etc.  Maybe unit 12......   You just wait though.  the buffet table has a way of moving. 

[jackelope]

how long will the animals last, whitefoot, when the hunting goes unregulated and it's a free for all.

how many elk did you kill last year, whitefoot?

no b.s. now...there's enough of that on here.

[andrew_12gauge]

 

39 still has a lot of game Andrew.  Try a little farther north in the Dworskak  etc.  Maybe unit 12......   You just wait though.  the buffet table has a way of moving. 

yea but if you listened to most idaho hunters over on mm youd think there werent more than 100 elk and no deer left in this state I know they have had an impact which makes me wonder how good it was before the wolves, but the loss of game is a little overstated i think

[littlebuf]

F*** tribal hunting and anyone who supports it.  It is very cut and dry for me, noone on this earth owns the fish and game of Washington state and should not get ANY advanced treatment for any reason.  We all have ancestors and are not demanding the right to practice their traditions that may have an effect on others and possibly their livelihood.  How hard is it to buy an over-the-counter tag and hunt like everyone else.  Isn't it enough that you get Reservations and other tribal advantages.  I don't see the government setting aside millions of acres for "my people."  If you believe in TRIBAL HUNTING, eat s***.

  i dont think this makes you look bad at all, i guess some people cant handle reality. the tribes are pathetic and full of hypocrites. the white man raped the land and killed all the game right? have you seen a reservation? talk about abusing land and game. indians deserve no special treatment for anything, what you think your special because you were born?  

[teal101]

Whitefoot a serious question, or series of questions,

So if a tribal member is going to harvest an animal, say a bull elk, for a ceremony wouldn't he/she harvest it in a ceremonial way?  Say as the ancestors did?  If your ceremonies are still rooted in the ways of your elders, shouldn't the harvesting of the animal be done in such a way too?

Do you personally think the use of high powered rifles and automobiles to aid in harvest is acceptable?  If so why?  The treaty was written for back in the day when these things weren't thought of.  Aren't the tribes kind of "pushing the limit" so to say when they use todays technologies.

I personally think the tribes would not see as much bashing from all logical hunters if they harvested respectfully like their ancestors did.  I have no problem with a tribesman taking a bull elk under his treaty right if hes using a traditional longbow and horse and not aiding himself with todays technologies.

To me the harvesting of an animal out of season by a tribesman with a truck and rifle is disgusting.  I think it reflects poorly on the tribes.

Also do you think its right for a tribesman to harvest multiple bull elk in one year, then enter them in hunting shows and sell the antlers?  Is one family going to use 2, 3, even 4 elk a year?  Isn't it the way of the elders to use all of the elk possible and not waste?  I see it hard to not waste when harvesting upwards of 3 of these animals in a year.

Just trying to get a perspective on YOUR stance on these issues to provide some opposition and possibly middle ground on this subject.

Thanks.

[coachcw]

nice post teal, well wrote.

[JoeVon]

I'm kinda confused on the views of tribal hunting on this website, if you can believe that...

My confusion isn't solely based from this thread, but from the attitude/opinions as a whole from our members.

First you guys complain because they (Tribal Members) go off "The Rez" to shoot "Our" elk.  Now I don't agree with this and I'm sure many of you don't either.  I think this is wrong.

The part that confuses me, is when people tell them (Tribal Members) to not shoot "Their" elk, the elk that they "manage" on their own lands, because its not during "Our" season.  Why do any non-tribal members care?  Its land that we will most likely never be able to hunt, fish, or recreate on, we don't have any say of what go's on there, so why do we care?  

I'm sure I'll get some flack for this post, but frankly, just don't understand.  

[littlebuf]

if they fence the rez then ya i could give two *censored*s what they do

[JoeVon]

  i dont think this makes you look bad at all, i guess some people cant handle reality. the tribes are pathetic and full of hypocrites. the white man raped the land and killed all the game right? have you seen a reservation? talk about abusing land and game. indians deserve no special treatment for anything, what you think your special because you were born?  

Have you seen a reservation?  Its been my experience that most are loaded with game...more so than public land for sure.

And what does a fence have to do with my question?