First tribal elk kill of the summer?

[colockumelk]

Joe Von because when you have units like the Colockum that are having a tough time with their bull to cow ratio and you have the Yakamas come in and kill about 5 times more bulls than we are allowed to take then there isn't any managment and the bull to cow poplulation continues to spiral downward quickly just like in the Colockum. 

[littlebuf]

fence the reservation in, make it a high fence game park. then no other game could come in or out and they could stay in there  kill it all off and call it hunting. then i wouldn't care

[JoeVon]

Joe Von because when you have units like the Colockum that are having a tough time with their bull to cow ratio and you have the Yakamas come in and kill about 5 times more bulls than we are allowed to take then there isn't any managment and the bull to cow poplulation continues to spiral downward quickly just like in the Colockum. 

Colockum, if you read my post, you'll see that I agree with what you are saying as being wrong.  My question/confusion came from Non-Tribal members telling Tribal Members what they could/should not be able to do on their lands.

[andrew_12gauge]

F*** tribal hunting and anyone who supports it.  It is very cut and dry for me, noone on this earth owns the fish and game of Washington state and should not get ANY advanced treatment for any reason.  We all have ancestors and are not demanding the right to practice their traditions that may have an effect on others and possibly their livelihood.  How hard is it to buy an over-the-counter tag and hunt like everyone else.  Isn't it enough that you get Reservations and other tribal advantages.  I don't see the government setting aside millions of acres for "my people."  If you believe in TRIBAL HUNTING, eat s***.

  i dont think this makes you look bad at all, i guess some people cant handle reality. the tribes are pathetic and full of hypocrites. the white man raped the land and killed all the game right? have you seen a reservation? talk about abusing land and game. indians deserve no special treatment for anything, what you think your special because you were born?  

as i was reading this a perfect photo popped up in random photos. your opinions are very closed minded as i stated before we have our bad apples as well just because the federal government hundreds of years ago gave them the right to rape and pillage the land and kill all of the game animals they wanted doesnt mean that we should take it out on the whole tribe. Most of the tribe members are probably very responsible stewards of the land

[Whitefoot]

Joe Von i don't hunt juss the Clockum. I hunt on the rez and other places just as much or more..   This whole thing about hunting with out a truck or a rifle?  Should I be using a bow and my horse?  I don't juss shoot bulls either..   I don't let any of my meat go to waste... Theirs another thread where the game wardens put a letter about that.. Because everybody calls me in I have to stay in close contact with them..   Everytime someone puts an outrageous number like 40 bulls in a week or something dumb everybody believes it.. That's a bunch of b.s.  Or where thes guys see bulls with horns missing.. I take the meat.. that's probly people poaching and try to book it before they get caught.

[Whitefoot]

Heard your little group was trying to contact me clockum.. what do you guys want?

[littlebuf]

andrew please explain how "closed minded" i am, id really like to hear it

[JoeVon]

Whitefoot, I never said you just hunted the colockum.  I'm not trying to get in this argument, I just wanted some members from here to clear up a question for me.

[Whitefoot]

Ok, I don't think I understood your question.. But i think I replied to somebody else question and put your name.. My bad..

[Whitefoot]

Yea, sorry wrong person.. Think your gunna have to ask me again.  I don't understand your question.. all the way..

[JoeVon]

Lol, my question wasn't really geared towards you because you are a tribal member.
Sorry for the confusion.

[andrew_12gauge]

andrew please explain how "closed minded" i am, id really like to hear it

the fact that you could even agree with what furbearer said shows you are closed minded, its like blaming the african american community as a whole for drug wars in the inner cities, it is not the african americans it is the percentage of them who are drug addicts and dealers and there are whites and hispanics and every other race involved too. while there may be some tribal hunters who abuse their rights there are also a lot of white hunters who dont always necesarilly follow our rules the only difference is when we catch the whites we can convict them as poachers

[littlebuf]

your last sentence will explain the outrage that is felt, and the double standard a race gets over another like oh i dont know being able to kill what ever the hell you want while all other races are held to another set of rules i would think is incredible racist and "closed minded" maybe im just not smart enough to figure it out tho, wish i was cool like you

[Whitefoot]

O!  I think the biggest problem is that there is a lot of rumors and everybody believes them..  Then they blame it on the Indians, so it upsets a lot of people because everybody says all we kill is bulls.. Aaron and His game departmant figures arent even accurate..  So he and the game department juss guess how many we take and there numbers are inacurate so that cause people to be pissed....  That's what everybody problem is.. The other is because there mad because they want us to hunt on horses and use bows..  That we shouldn't get to use trucks and rifles.     The other problem is that we should all have the same rules..  That's what all the anger is about.  Did that answer it.. That's y everybody seems to care.

[littlebuf]

i could care less how indians hunt, how bout just be held to the same laws EVERYBODY else is