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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #150 on: July 15, 2009, 08:07:05 AM »
that's how you guys should hunt is on your wagon.... you and your wagon trail....  shouldnt use trucks or atv's.. stickk to your wagons.. litte punk..

But that's not how it goes.  We don't have year round liberal seasons.  We don't have white man only hunting land.

The problem is you tribesman abuse the system laid out before you.

And with your recent few posts your ass is showing.  Want people to respect the tribes.  Don't talk like an ass.  You're only hurting your cause.

If you're allowed to use the rights of treaties written way back when, shouldn't we be able to use the rights of our people from that time too?  Namely pillaging and plundering tribes and forcing them to do things our way?  No, that's just wrong in todays society.  Why is it OK for you to use these treaties still?

Iceman, great post!

Whacker, that's a great idea.  Force the tribes to at least document their kills so the state can "manage" the herds.  You would think the tribes would be all for this, as it would help increase herd size and health.  I have a feeling they'd shoot it down out of pure greed for animals :bdid:

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #151 on: July 15, 2009, 08:33:04 AM »
Treaties like this do not exist anywhere else in the world, but in good ol' USA.
And Canada.  They have the same issues and discussions.

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #152 on: July 15, 2009, 08:34:59 AM »
Wacker
  
  The tribe has a system in place to monitor the numbers coming off the rez.

  Just a question to all of you how many animals do you think the Yakama tribes harvests off the rez each year?

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #153 on: July 15, 2009, 08:45:05 AM »
Easy solution, give every Native American the choice:

1.   You’re an American citizen now, with the same rights and responsibilities as all the others, or
2.   You’re a member of the Nation of (insert tribe here), good luck on your own.  If you’d like to visit the USA apply for visa and make sure your passport is in order. 

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #154 on: July 15, 2009, 08:57:34 AM »
Thats exactly how I feel.  When Mr. Odie suggested that I go and enjoy my holiday I about came out of my seat.  This is the USA.  Love it or get the F* out

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #155 on: July 15, 2009, 08:58:49 AM »
Can't answer your question Yak...us white folks aren't even allowed to drive around or go out there. 

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #156 on: July 15, 2009, 08:59:57 AM »
whitefoot look at your posts.........Not knowing you,what do you think you come across as???

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #157 on: July 15, 2009, 09:03:52 AM »
Just a question to all of you how many animals do you think the Yakama tribes harvests off the rez each year?                 I dont know..but I would like to know..I would also like to know what it cost you to hunt..

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #158 on: July 15, 2009, 09:09:26 AM »
I'm with Rasbo.  I would really like to know the actual numbers and not peoples guesses.  Also is there a way for the me to look at the tracking system of west side tribes?  I would like to be able to see the facts, not speculation.  Speculation leads to bad conclusions.  The more accurate the information provided to us is the better we can understand the Tribal point of view.   
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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #159 on: July 15, 2009, 09:15:43 AM »
i'm sure you would do if you could too.
No, not at all.  What makes you think so?  I often pass up shots at game simply because at the moment I realize I really don't want another dead animal to deal with.  There's really no thrill in shooting something just to see the effects of the shot.  Unless I actually want another carcass to eat I figure I might as well just enjoy observing the animal in it's habitat and let it go about it's business before quietly walking away.  People that think it's exciting to shoot something just to see it fall & die are a little short sighted, and likely a little "off-balance".  I certainly wouldn't want such a person as a hunting partner.
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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #160 on: July 15, 2009, 09:22:57 AM »
People that think it's exciting to shoot something just to see it fall & die are a little short sighted, and likely a little "off-balance".  I certainly wouldn't want such a person as a hunting partner. Gee Tom does this mean you dont like me for what I did to the mole LOL

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #161 on: July 15, 2009, 09:24:14 AM »
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i'm sure you would do if you could too.

Considering I already hunt almost exclusively with a trad bow, I am probably one up on most tribal guys anyway in that arena.  

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #162 on: July 15, 2009, 09:25:27 AM »
Most of the west side tribes are not treaty Tribes they must answer to the state for hunting privileges. The state may have harvest report because the Tribes I know on that side must use tags. If I gave out a number for what I calculated on Tribal harvest off the rez for (Yakama's) you all would call me a lire now come on and answer the question give me a guess we are not saying that the number you give it true lets just see what everyone thinks.

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #163 on: July 15, 2009, 09:32:47 AM »
i'm sure you would do if you could too.
No, not at all.  What makes you think so?  I often pass up shots at game simply because at the moment I realize I really don't want another dead animal to deal with.  There's really no thrill in shooting something just to see the effects of the shot.  Unless I actually want another carcass to eat I figure I might as well just enjoy observing the animal in it's habitat and let it go about it's business before quietly walking away.  People that think it's exciting to shoot something just to see it fall & die are a little short sighted, and likely a little "off-balance".  I certainly wouldn't want such a person as a hunting partner.

I think you're confused on what I was reffering to. If I could hunt year round I would if I could, that doesn't mean I would take more than I needed or shoot animals just for fun. Why wouldn't you? It would be like having the ultimate tag. As long as it's done responsibly. I know for a fact that alot of them are abusing this privledge but there are probably just as many non-tribal idiots doing the same *censored*. The only difference is the tribes get a pass(when no one should).

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Re: First tribal elk kill of the summer?
« Reply #164 on: July 15, 2009, 09:37:02 AM »
Don't get upset but I call in my governors tag.

Oh

 Just to let some of you know there are only 35 people that put in for the Tribes big horn sheep draw and only 10day's to draw time. I could use some help when I get drawn.

 


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