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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 12, 2009, 10:42:36 PM »
Whatever the cause of the malfunction is, is not as important as the fact that you and your family are uninjured. Now, go get a T-shirt made that says "I Killed my Computer!"
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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 13, 2009, 07:01:12 AM »
I have been wanting to shoot my computer for years....
Thank you for posting this happening. I am sure some would not want to discuss things like this. Sounds like you did right by pointing in a safe direction.
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well now that you know it's a lemon........ i'll take it off your hands for safety reasons
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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 13, 2009, 08:54:21 AM »
This kind of thing is bound to happen just like everyone has said. It is a great example that you posted this and I commend you for that. A perfect reminder to always point your gun in a safe direction. I think many of us that have not had an accident become complacent and forget the little things sometimes. I am glad my family brough me up with proper gun control.
I'll share one:
My grandpa was in his loading room messing with my Model 99 Savage .243. He always points guns at his heavy duty desk that faces the back of the house away from the living room and such. Well he dropped a round in and closed the lever "kaboom". Put a hole in the desk for the first time ever (likely 40 years of messing with guns). After all that time with no accidents he still knew there was always a chance and had it pointed in a safe direction. Funny part is that grandma wa in the living room just 10 feet the other direction and never came to see what was up. He walked out, ears ringing heart pounding and said, were you going to see if I was ok? She said I though you were just messing with me again. I guess thats what he get for being a prankster all his life
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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 13, 2009, 10:31:58 AM »
I'd get a snap cap and put that in the gun when trying to re-create the situation. Could be having a shell in the chamber makes a difference.
I wonder about the spring as root cause. Could be, but seems to me that something happened to the sear rather than a spring issue. But I'm far from an expert!
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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 13, 2009, 11:37:01 AM »
I am not real sure, I would go with the spring being the cause either. I am still of the mind set that something is wrong with the sear/hammer connection. I would definitely try to recreate the problem with an empty case or a snap cap.
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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 13, 2009, 12:25:34 PM »
Glad you and your family are ok! Please call Dan Wessen! They would love to go threw that gun and figure out what went wrong! I have not talked to Dan Wessen since the sell out to CZ, but they were a top company in customer service in my mind. I would not mess with it and call Dan Wessen!
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July 13, 2009, 12:30:03 PM »
If it is only 2 years old I would think they would be interested in seeing it.
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July 13, 2009, 06:09:20 PM »
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Negligent discharge in the house!!!
I'm not sure I'd call it that. When you chambered the round it was pointed in a safe direction and no one was hurt. Accidental discharge yes, negligent ? No.
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July 13, 2009, 08:39:46 PM »
It's nice to know that I can come here and get support instead of lectures.
After thinking things over, I tend to agree with everyone who has said that this sounds like a problem with the sear. I tried to contact Dan Wesson today, but forgot about the whole different time zone thing and missed them. I've decided that the gun needs to go in. Not that I have anything against the local smiths, this just seems like something that the factory needs to check out. I need to get a clear answer as to what went wrong. If the gun comes back and they say that they replaced a few parts and that "should fix the problem", I don't think I can trust the gun anymore. I need to hear that yes, the _____ was the problem, and it has been fixed. It's a shame because I really do love this gun. But now it's like a dog that has bitten someone for no obvious reason. I just don't trust it.
On a lighter note, this little mishap has given my wife something to harass me about for the rest of out lives. She called me today while I was working to ask if I'd shot any more computers in my quest to rid the world of all technology. And to say thanks for the brand new computer that I bought her.
Then my brother called me. He's a computer tech, and I asked him to retrieve the data off of the hard drive of my old computer (I had everything backed up on DVDs, but they were in a binder, next to the computer and the bullet went through all of them
). This particular brother is not a big fan of guns, and handguns terrify him. When I explained what happened he said that he's going to keep the case as a trophy of why guns are stupid.
As for calling it negligent, I don't personally believe in accidents. Everything has a cause. If it's human it's the result of poor judgement or an honest mistake. If it's mechanical, then it's a malfunction, or caused by human error. Until I can rule myself out as the cause, I have to think that I made a mistake somewhere.
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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 14, 2009, 10:20:06 PM »
Had a gun go off in my hospital lab at 2am by a cop showing me a Llama .380. It did the same thing. No one hurt. Looked for the bullet for 3 days. Slady lab tech found it when she snagged her nylons on it lodged against a hinge on the cabinet about 8" inches from where we were standing. It's good to be lucky. Had two stupids AD's myself over 40 years. Shot out my picture window of a house I just sold. And shot through several walls and doors with a "whimpy" .38 special and lodged agains the bricks on the out side of the house ( again I was selling. Seems to be a pattern there). The police gunsmith could not make it repeat the misfire again.
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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 14, 2009, 11:04:18 PM »
I had a friend that had a ND in the house he was showing me a new gun he just bought. This was a couple of years ago, can't remember the exact details except he shot his bed went through the mattress, through the subfloor and ended up in the crawl space. The scary thing was there were 4 or 5 kids playing in the next room. His wife was pissed to say the least.
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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 15, 2009, 05:06:02 PM »
I called Dan Wesson to send the gun in to get checked out. I was impressed when the gentleman I spoke with showed a genuine concern over what happened. They're sending me a label so that I can send the gun in at their expense to have it checked out. I guess I'll wait to here back from them and then decide if I'm going to keep the gun or not.
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Re: Negligent discharge in the house!!!
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July 16, 2009, 09:43:46 AM »
Glad Dan Wessen is going to take care of you. I'm sure they will find the problem and replce or repair. Dan Wessen gets an A+!
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