iceman thank you for your info, i agree that this particular shot that i am describing defies physics but it is true. that is why i am so worried about it. the gun is very accurate with the load. i killed a yote with it at 350 yds a week ago and it pretty much did the same thing. my buddies all shoot the same bullet out of a 300 wsm and it performs flawlessly for them. maybe the bullet just doesnt like my gun. thanks you guys for all of you knowledge, like i said i am very new at this reloading thing and i am just trying to get it figured out. i got the formula for the ammo right out of the nosler book. i am used to buying remington factory loads and have never had a problem with doing that. but like many say the 300rum ammo is 60$. i have shot 100 rounds so i have already saved a ton of dough. but i am wondering if it is worth all of the headache if the bullet will perform on the big one.