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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2009, 05:30:23 PM »
All you have to do is compare velocities and energy at various distances with different cartridges and practice to know your limits and your gun's capabilities. I have guys who hunt with me that are more proficient at 700 yards than other guys are at 200 yards. :twocents:

I must admit I have seen two different elk shot at over 700 with 30:06. But those guys are a class of shooters who do not like to shoot game unless it's at least 500+.

Another guy who shoots 300 mag plans to kill his elk again this year at 500-1000. He says he will pass every close shot until we get the long shot. Shooting is what he does for a living and the close shots are not sporting to him. But he shoots better at 1000 than most guys at 300.

It's a matter of preference and ability. :twocents:
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2009, 05:40:24 PM »
I meant that I'm tired of hearing stories about how you don't need to HOLD OVER out to 600 yards. 
I did not mean to say it wasn't possible to kill well at extended ranges with a 7mm just that the round has a dreamy lack of reality to a lot of guys. 

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2009, 06:00:11 PM »
gotcha....ya some guys don't know their balistics too well.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2009, 06:20:44 PM »
It is just as interesting to see which cartridges get the fewest votes.  The "backhanded compliment" (least overrated).
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2009, 06:38:57 PM »
I vote 7mm Mag. :tung:

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2009, 06:59:13 PM »
I was wondering if I read it wrong or if some of the others are reading it wrong. Was surpprised to see so many don't like the 7mm. That is a great all around gun that is one of the most popular calibers sold today.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2009, 07:25:36 PM »
Yeah I don't think it's that people "don't like" the 7 Mag, or any of the others with high numbers of votes. The question being the "most overrated," I agree, a lot of people think the 7 Mag. is really something special, when in reality it really doesn't have much, if anything, over the 30-06.

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2009, 07:32:04 PM »
there are alot of good thing with the wsm the main thing is that it compares with its counter parts o well velocity and energy but kicks half as bad if not less then that i have a 300wsm that kicks less than my 308 and 270
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2009, 07:36:23 PM »
I was wondering if I read it wrong or if some of the others are reading it wrong. Was surpprised to see so many don't like the 7mm. That is a great all around gun that is one of the most popular calibers sold today.
I didnt vote for the 7mm but would if I had to do over. several people made good arguements for it as most overrated. Now that said I think its a damned fine cartridge and a man who owns one is as well armed as could be, but it really offers very little practicle advantage over the 270 or 280.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2009, 07:38:38 PM »
i have a 300wsm that kicks less than my 308 and 270

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2009, 07:42:50 PM »
30-06.

Sorry guys, just sick of the fascination about the round. Big whoopee doo.

30-06 is the greates cartridge of all time.  Not the greastest round but greatest cartridge.
With out the 30-06 we wouldn't have such rounds as the 25-06, .270, 338-06, 35 whelan .375 hawk .411 hawk.  And the list goes on and on and on.  Those are just a few of my favorites.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2009, 07:46:55 PM »
I am a bit impressed that so many recognize the over hype of the 7mm rem mag. I hear it talked up ALOT, it aint much folks.
interesting poll

Not a lot of non ultra mags of short mags that are standard that can shoot a 160gr bullet over 3000fps.  Or a 175 just under 3000fps.  A .300 win mag shoots a 180 at just under 3000fps for comparison.
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2009, 07:49:20 PM »
Yeah I don't think it's that people "don't like" the 7 Mag, or any of the others with high numbers of votes. The question being the "most overrated," I agree, a lot of people think the 7 Mag. is really something special, when in reality it really doesn't have much, if anything, over the 30-06.

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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2009, 07:50:15 PM »
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but it really offers very little practicle advantage over the 270 or 280.

I will agree it does not offer a great advantage over a 280, maybe another 50-100 yards of range, but I think the 7mm has a significant advantage over the 270 because of the larger bullets and longer range combined. :twocents:
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Re: Most overrated cartridges
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2009, 07:53:48 PM »
I don't know why I am defending the 7mag, i'm not a fan.  But when you compare it to a lot of cartridges it out preforms ballisticly most cartridges.
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