Most overrated cartridges

[jdb]

but it really offers very little practical advantage over the 270 or 280.

I will agree it does not offer a great advantage over a 280, maybe another 50-100 yards of range, but I think the 7mm has a significant advantage over the 270 because of the larger bullets and longer range combined.

you re right the heavier bullet gives it some advantage especially on bigger game such as elk or moose

[bearpaw]

I think the only reason the 06 case was so great is due to the availability of brass. Everyone figured it was a good case to work with. Plus everyone figured out they could neck it down and have a better performing cartridge.

WTBY did the same sort of thing with their cases and so did Winchester with the Short Mags, etc., except they all shoot faster than the 06 calibers.

[bearpaw]

you re right the heavier bullet gives it some advantage especially on bigger game such as elk or moose

bear is where I see the most difference, a 270 is smaller than I recommend for bear.

[bearpaw]

I don't know why I am defending the 7mag, i'm not a fan.  But when you compare it to a lot of cartridges it out preforms ballisticly most cartridges.

I can tell you from watching many hundreds of animals being taken with nearly every concievable caliber, the 7mag does the most with the least bullet. I highly recommend it on anything in the lower 48.

Another thing about the 7mag and 300 win mag, they are both very accurate calibers, most guns put out good groups.

[jjhunter]

I am a bit impressed that so many recognize the over hype of the 7mm rem mag. I hear it talked up ALOT, it aint much folks.
interesting poll

Not a lot of non ultra mags of short mags that are standard that can shoot a 160gr bullet over 3000fps.  Or a 175 just under 3000fps.  A .300 win mag shoots a 180 at just under 3000fps for comparison.

I don't know where you got your data, but you are missing a good 150 fps on the 300 WM and a 180.  On a different note, the 7mm is a beauty when mated with a 160+ grain hunting or target bullet at 3050 or so.  These bullets have extremely high B.C.'s, and, when mated with the 7mm Mag, make a deadly combination - especially when you take into account that it's recoil is relatively mild when compared to the big 7's and big 30's which nearly all need brakes to be shot comfortably with comparable B.C. bullets at similar speeds.

[Bigshooter]

I am a bit impressed that so many recognize the over hype of the 7mm rem mag. I hear it talked up ALOT, it aint much folks.
interesting poll

Not a lot of non ultra mags of short mags that are standard that can shoot a 160gr bullet over 3000fps.  Or a 175 just under 3000fps.  A .300 win mag shoots a 180 at just under 3000fps for comparison.

I don't know where you got your data, but you are missing a good 150 fps on the 300 WM and a 180.  On a different note, the 7mm is a beauty when mated with a 160+ grain hunting or target bullet at 3050 or so.  These bullets have extremely high B.C.'s, and, when mated with the 7mm Mag, make a deadly combination - especially when you take into account that it's recoil is relatively mild when compared to the big 7's and big 30's which nearly all need brakes to be shot comfortably with comparable B.C. bullets at similar speeds.

I don't know where you're getting your information but factory .300 ammunition won't get 3000fps.

[jjhunter]

I don't shoot factory, and sure as hell wouldn't spend to time to chrono it unless you are buying large quantities from the same lot?

[Bigshooter]

I don't shoot factory, and sure as hell wouldn't spend to time to chrono it unless you are buying large quantities from the same lot?

Most people due.

[jjhunter]

And, I would make a bet that the premium ammo will do it - in fact, i would be willing to waste $40 just to see.  

[bobcat]

Yeah I don't think it's that people "don't like" the 7 Mag, or any of the others with high numbers of votes. The question being the "most overrated," I agree, a lot of people think the 7 Mag. is really something special, when in reality it really doesn't have much, if anything, over the 30-06.

You're kiding right?

No, not kidding. If you consider how far most people shoot their game, probably very rarely over 300 yards, the 7 Mag. does not kill any better or show any significant difference in trajectory. It's not until you get to around 400 yards where you really see any practical difference over the 30-06.

[Bigshooter]

Yeah I don't think it's that people "don't like" the 7 Mag, or any of the others with high numbers of votes. The question being the "most overrated," I agree, a lot of people think the 7 Mag. is really something special, when in reality it really doesn't have much, if anything, over the 30-06.

You're kiding right?

No, not kidding. If you consider how far most people shoot their game, probably very rarely over 300 yards, the 7 Mag. does not kill any better or show any significant difference in trajectory. It's not until you get to around 400 yards where you really see any practical difference over the 30-06.

So the 7mm does or doesn't have anything on the 30-06 makeup your mind.

[Bigshooter]

And, I would make a bet that the premium ammo will do it - in fact, i would be willing to waste $40 just to see.  

Do a search on factory .300 velocities.  Most will tell you 2980 or less.  Shot it through a chony with a 24 inch barrel and you will get a hair over 2900.

[Gutpile]

My goal was to  when I posted this and it had worked. Excellent!!! Keep it up boys. I still think the 243 is overrated.   

[Bofire]

 :)7mm rem mag, I killed alot of game with one, swore by it, until I used a chrono and found out it did not do anything near what the books said. It is a good round but no better than many and the 280 is within about 50 fps with an 06 case. Id take a 280 or 270 over it anytime. The 300WM, no shorties, shoots a 180 like a 7mm does a 150. That sauid I have doubts about the 300wm too, which is one of my fav rounds.
If I need a gun bigger than a 270/06/280 Iwant a 300WM or bigger. With the 175 the 7mm mag is about an 06. but with more recoil, short barrel life and muzzle blast. Yes I have shot the barrel out of a 7mm mag.
I am not saying a 7 mag wont kill game, I am saying it is over hyped, people think it shoots like a lazer, it dont.
Carl

[bobcat]

Yeah I don't think it's that people "don't like" the 7 Mag, or any of the others with high numbers of votes. The question being the "most overrated," I agree, a lot of people think the 7 Mag. is really something special, when in reality it really doesn't have much, if anything, over the 30-06.

You're kiding right?

No, not kidding. If you consider how far most people shoot their game, probably very rarely over 300 yards, the 7 Mag. does not kill any better or show any significant difference in trajectory. It's not until you get to around 400 yards where you really see any practical difference over the 30-06.

So the 7mm does or doesn't have anything on the 30-06 makeup your mind.

A couple hundred feet per second is what it has over the 30-06. Which makes it as good as the 30-06, but not significantly better. And not better at all unless you're shooting over 300 yards. Just my opinion. If you like it, use it. If not, don't.