Imported canadian wolf kills

[WAcoyotehunter]

  what I learn that I believe this what happen to michelle and larry, maybe Gary and few Rancehr will start to share a good chat in town.
ONCE wolve made a kill on next livestock will be SHOT so soon Scott Fitkin will better confirmed wolves did this.

I am postive those rancher won't get cited for shoot wolves right afte  livestock are killed.
State law allowed us  we must protect our animals and our children and our rancher. We pay tax on property. Don't even think u can control us and allow wolves eat some of ours.

I heard they all ranchers are totally angry today. Whoa..... And most rancher totally disagree with scott fitkin. So am I. After 3 newspapers

Game are ON.
Oh by the way how do we know it was coyote or dogs or anything. We will shoot right there and here ur evidence.

Good luck.


Mulehunter

I agree that we should have the right to do that.   

[boneaddict]

Put yourself in his shoes and try to imagine the idiots he deals with every day because of this...  I don't blame him for being skeptical on wolf reports and depredation.  Just because an animal is dead in wolf country does not mean wolves killed it (though it's always a possibility) there has to be some evidence that can make it seem legit.  It sounds like the chicken killing incident may or may not have been a wolf...who knows if it was a coyote, or a neighbors dog?  I don't blame Scott Fitkin for asking the questions...that's his job. 

Why don't some of you ask to volunteer for a day?  I bet a day in the field with a bio would be helpful.  Who knows- if nothing else you have an audience for your stance on wolves.  Maybe there would be some useful dialogue. 

I'd have to agree with you.   Should be tracks or something to support claim.  With all the hype, everyone is seeing wolves today.   Lots of chickens have died from Coyotes or the neighbors dog.  It very well could have been one though.  They are certainly in the area and aren't going to turn down a free snack.  She's kind of an idiot for "baiting" them though. 

[bearpaw]

I am not sure about it being a right to protect livestock, I am a afraid the poor unsuspecting rancher would be in trouble with wolves listed right now. Remember, only the eastern 1/3 of WA was downlisted by the feds.

[boneaddict]

I'm not sure what the law reads.  I know you better not shoot a red tailed hawk in your chicken pen, and I would think a wolf trumps that in regards to jail time.

[WAcoyotehunter]

I'm not sure what the law reads.  I know you better not shoot a red tailed hawk in your chicken pen, and I would think a wolf trumps that in regards to jail time.

as much as i agree with people protecting their property, you have a good point...

[bearpaw]

I doubt anyone who is knowledgeable will shoot any wolves. Even the radical guys posting on here who saw them hunting, or say they saw wolves near their homes, have not shot any. Most people know they are protected.

We need language in the wolf plan allowing ranchers and pet owners to protect their livestock and pets. Write the commissioners and legislators about this being needed in the wolf plan.

Send polite intelligently written email, keep it short and to the point, it only takes a minute to copy to all important persons. The elected people and wildlife commissioners need your letters of support to push through important considerations in the wolf plan and in the legislature.

Here is a contact list:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,31831.0.html

[mulehunter]

Bearpaw, yes u right. Lets see how thing go. I doubt it working. We will work harder and pressure on them and maybe they will allowed us to protect our livestocks.

My understand that no one cannot shoot wolves under law. I already know it for years.  Funny thing what michelle did probablly think about it all week and think over and over again after Scott Fitkin left from investagtor he said maybe coyote or dogs who knows.  Well she end up stuck and lost 11 chickens.  she think ( I should have shot this bit$h) well maybe it could be a coyote. Oh well. She lost her oppourity.

That's why we are here on site to ask ur people for help. U guys don't have to.... but would be helpful.  I can't do everything. I thank u most of people for understand how our rancher feel and our hard work raise rancher. Put up fence, spend everyday, bills, everything what make dream of most rancher. I will never be happy if I were not a rancher. I totally love to raise animals and teach my children how fun farm are. We love to collect eggs, feed pigs and watch our sheep being happy in our pasture know we care about them.
We spend most of our time in our property because I choose to have what I want.

Feel like Feds and biloglist are working on destroying every rancher family and large property by Fed's strong LAW word.

Mulehunter 

[mulehunter]

I'm not sure what the law reads.  I know you better not shoot a red tailed hawk in your chicken pen, and I would think a wolf trumps that in regards to jail time.

Bone,
I have seen 2 around my pasture but I have dogs around chicken pen. Never had problem Here, remember I post few Eagle and owls  and etc while ago on other thread anyway were trying to catch my chicken but never did.

Those bird is beauitful.

If red tailed hawk snagged 1 of my chicken. Well its okay only 6 dollar for chicken. If 11 were killed one day like michelle, well I don't think coyote kill 11 but maybe 6 or 3 and wolves is almost like more than 8 or 10 they took more than coyote.   I will be pissed. And lost 8  to 11eggs a day.  And start all over after 6 month from baby chicken and I don't want to drive store waste my gas for all foods.
 My children will learn to understand and I explain to my children how Feds Fk up system over wolves in american and most rancher already suffer from whole their loss livestock.

What happen to two great pygrenne got killed last spring on other thread and I know it all.
No report because owner doesn't want get in any involved.

Well IF my 2 dogs got killed and got in to my sheeps in my field and kill all well I promise I will contact my  lawyer and local News to come here first and explain why scott fitkin won't admit it on 2 kills this spring and have them take picture first thing in morning with a dead wolve next to all livestocks before gamedept or biologlist walk in. No discuss period.

Everyone need to know that wolves are OUR major problem here up okanagon county.
I don't know what s up with 2nd pack in Pend Oreille county. I am sure those pack already found ur permit tag moose for dinner. And plently moose to kill for wolves. Good luck.

We really Need replace Scott Fitkin to new biologlist agent.
He just afraid to admit it and won't be soft on rancher..

Why not u WAcoyotehunter take over his job.  And fired him Smile. I think u can do better than him? I don't understand why he tell his side on local news. Cant he just being honest.
Maybe....
Why not he said on local news...

( I wish I culd know what caused livestock I would be happy to manage wolves if I found evidence. And I feel so bad for those family with their loss livestock) but well I read his statement
He just a COLD heart tell people Noo.. Its not wolves its not wolve.. And what else.  he can't prove it. But owner name michelle proved she saw TWICE and she know what wolves look like,  BUT and what happen to Barbie she proved she saw and Biologlist scott fitkin ONLY  believe Barbie but not michelle.

WTF.


Mulehunter 

[wolfbait]

Everything you are saying makes plenty of since Mulehunter. Most people would not mind wolves in any of the states if they were managed liked they had promised from the start. But so far it has been all one sided. When ranchers report their stock getting killed by wolves and the "investigators" look the other way, what kind of message is that sending to these people? In Arizona And New Mexico where they are tring to reintroduce a crossbred dog as a wolf, ranchers are shooting the hell out of them. Why? Because the feds, environmentalist are not giving them a plan that helps protects their livestock. Hell, they have to have cages for their kids to be in while they wait for the school buss. With them not giving the people a management plan that works they are forcing honest people to do things they would not normally do, like shooting wolves. The endangered joke list, these wolves are not endangered or going extinct, keeping these wolves listed is a joke. But also the only way they can legally shove these wolves on people. If they don't give Washington a plan where people can protect their animals, what choice does that leave the people? Backed in to a corner people will shoot wolves to protect their livestock and pets.  

[runniNgunnin]

and more importantly, CHILDREN... 

[bearpaw]

Because the feds, environmentalist are not giving them a plan that helps protects their livestock.

wolfbait you hit the nail on the head, if the environmentalists were smart and if they were interested in recovering wildlife populations, they would make a plan work instead of challenging every plan, they have proven their word can not be trusted. In the long run I beleive this will prove to be a mistake.

[boneaddict]

They can't even be trusted in their own ranks....sending out letters about mass extermination of the wolves in Idaho, all 70,000 of them.  Why not keep it real and say 200 might get it, not the 70,000....oh yeah, that wouldn't raise as much money.  Kind of like the big sob story on whale wars trhe other night. LOL  I ahve nothing against whales, actually would probably be against harvesting them unless their numbers were higher....BUT, kind of rooting for the Japenese hauling them on board just to watch the eco terrorists being upset.

[bearpaw]

I laughed my a$$ off when the russians rammed the greenpeace boat and sunk it.....

If the japanese would do that they would leave them alone.....

[wolfbait]

Friend of mine said he saw a dead wolf in the ditch between Twin lakes cut-off and River bend this morning. He said at first he thought it was a huge coyote then he saw the head, One less wolf to worry about!  I won't be going to the services

[WDFW-SUX]