My reaction to what I've read concerning Washington Wolves on this forum

[Ellensburg]

Ray did u ban him? (i hope not)

First off, its cool that u posted here stating a view that goes agaisnt common beliefs on this site. Why didn't you take your time and make an smart-sounding post?

1. What does Christianity have to do with wolf hunting? If you have a problem with Christianity thats a different issue.

2. Why did you state that we hunt the "weak" animals? I don't know where to start on this one. Weak animals are killed off by starvation or predators... Watch any predator documentory and you will see that they usually take out the weak (which is a good thing)

3. I like how you brought up natives. You done any research to look into the current state of native hunting practices around this state? You will probably not open your eyes enough to see what it really is but you should take a look.

God bless  

[littlebuf]

i hope he makes another account, that could be entertaining until the open the woods back up

[superdown]

yeah , I see your point runamuk.  wolves might be a good idea if we still had the 60-100million bison and the 10million elk of the mid 19th century. But we don't so we might wan't to have few less wolves around.

[billythekidrock]

From his MySpace profile.

"About me:
I am a dweller in the western regions of Cascadia, otherwise know as the state of Washington in The Great Pacific Northwest. I've walked these woods since my early childhood, for which I hold pride in. I fear and respect the mountain being's in the night-fallen wood, as well as walk with the spirit of Northern Canids. I try not to walk set path's of any systems or teachings. But I do observe from the woods as other's walk these trails. I take in knowledge as it comes, but what I truly search for is sought out in my solitary. "

[dreamingbig]

I am glad you banned him.  Not much truth or intelligence in what he posted.

[S.O.B]

Man you should not have banned him I for one know how much fun he could have been for a guy like me to play with for a while, kinda like a wolf with a wounded rabbit/deer.

[Machias]

You guys should know there is no changing or adjusting this type of person's thought process.  Your wasting your time here folks.  These type of nut jobs live in complete fantasy land, they have no real concept of what mother nature really is about, just what they see on the animal planet shows.

[dawhunt]

I'm sorry to inform you but calling out everyone as a fool on your first post and instigating a line of crap where you resort to leveling threats to shoot people results in a ban. Bye

 

well done !!!!!!!! he can kiss my A__
Bob

[littlebuf]

thats kinda the point machias, it gets old just picking on magie and pope  he woulda been fun to rile up and then ban him

[Machias]

thats kinda the point machias, it gets old just picking on magie and pope  he woulda been fun to rile up and then ban him

 

[runamuk]

yeah , I see your point runamuk.  wolves might be a good idea if we still had the 60-100million bison and the 10million elk of the mid 19th century. But we don't so we might wan't to have few less wolves around.

This is why I stress managed populations.....our state cannot support historic numbers of anything there is not enough undeveloped land and the land itself has been altered by us.....I also stress not planting 200lb behemoth wolves that would have been fairly rare in an environment like ours....We the humans jumped the gun and went overboard in our eradication of wolves it was a hasty move with no sound basis other than fear motivating it.  However what is done is done and wolves are here and have been for a long time now so we need to look forward and start planning how we are going to manage them.....the states need to be allowed to manage their wildlife without so much interference and the anti's lawsuits really need to just be tossed in the circular file.  I also know I am in the minority with my support of wolves and thats ok....it would be boring if we all agreed all the time 

[superdown]

First of all, my stance in that Wolves not only belong here(in my state of Washington and all of the United States), but they have more of a right to be here than we(white europeans) do. The wolves along with the Natives were here long before us, and out of greed and religous insanity were a plague on them as well as the North American ecology.

What I've read here, truly disgusts me. "Shoot them all! Wolves don't belong here!", and the sort shows the true ignorance of you psuedo-hunters. How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU. There are those of us that have high hopes for natures population controllers to return to these regions. You people don't want Wolves to return because you have no skills for hunting the most healthy and elusive Elk/Deer, so you depend on the sick and old to hunt. The Wolves are whole kept populations from over-producing. When Elk/Deer are overpopulated(like they are now), they eat all the tree saplings and keep new trees from growing. Theres also the damage of over-grazing and other ecological hurt that comes with the world without Wolves. You people, for the most part, are not hunters. Wolves hunt to survive. THEY are the true hunters. The Native Americans and Inuiets of the north followed the Wolf and learned their ways of hunting from the skills of the Wolf. There are countless ancient religions and cults based on the teachings of the Wolf. But white christians single-handedly destroyed that with paranoia, greed and insanity. The Wolf was a symbol of great knowledge, but Christianity turned it into a false symbol of evil. And you people are all ignorant fools that pretend to hunt but are tainting the skill with foolishness and greed. The Wolves will return, know this, they will return. They are already here. And there are those of us that will go to no end to protect them from the likes of the fool

If you don't think there are enough predators out there just ask Timothy Treadwell.

[Ellensburg]

From his MySpace profile.

"About me:
I am a dweller in the western regions of Cascadia, otherwise know as the state of Washington in The Great Pacific Northwest. I've walked these woods since my early childhood, for which I hold pride in. I fear and respect the mountain being's in the night-fallen wood, as well as walk with the spirit of Northern Canids. I try not to walk set path's of any systems or teachings. But I do observe from the woods as other's walk these trails. I take in knowledge as it comes, but what I truly search for is sought out in my solitary. "

He sure is in horrible shape for wandering the woods his whole life. I bet he couldn't hike half a mile....

I think its stupid that he got banned. You could have just warned him. He didn't really make a direct threat to anyone... We can't just ban every opposing view...

[runamuk]

If you don't think there are enough predators out there just ask Timothy Treadwell.

As much as I enjoy speaking with the dead he doesn't interest me much

I think there is a place for predators (other than humans) in the environment they play an important role.....just as humans also play an important role in nature.  To think there is no place for them is as close minded as believing there is no reason for humans to hunt.....the truth lies in the middle.

Obviously your mind is made up......I am glad I did not cling to my old beliefs when I felt hunting was simply a display of macho ego .... and that hunters were all drunken woods trashers....hey that was what I had seen and had nothing else to base my opinion on.....then I found this site  .

[cohoho]

I think it is a good thing he got banned right from the start, it would have been way different had he come in slowly and shared his thoughts, but he didn't, 1st post and was blasting away.  His intentions were ill fated for sure.  Good call Ray.  Good call...