My reaction to what I've read concerning Washington Wolves on this forum

[bearpaw]

Those who advocate the "natural ecosystem" philosophy in midst of the modern civilization have their heads stuffed up a particular orifice so deeply they are suffocating. That's probably why they don't think clearly; lack of oxygen.

  

[diplomat]

Hello,

This will be my one and only post. You may remember me as Virfirnus. I am here to post a retraction and apology for my original statement regarding this forum that was very harmful to whats important to me, because I let my emotions get the best of me. I still am an avid supporter of Wolves, but I have learned that to help a cause, one must find common ground, common sense and be diplomatic with the opposing party. I understand alot of your fears about having Wolves back, but I am working to help those understand that it's not as bad as your imagination is letting you believe. I have become apart of a wildlife sanctuary/rehabilitation for injured and unreleasable wild animals, and have learned that I cannot let my emotions and passion get the best of me, otherwise it is detrimental to what I'm doing. I DO NOT support violence against those opposing. I support hunting myself, but I believe Wolves in the end will strengthen the herds and make hunting more worth-while, and the Elk or Deer you bag will be much healthier for you to consume. I DO NOT intend to shoot anyone who shoots Wolves(that was sarcasm though when I had posted that). I DO NOT support eco-terrorism. I am one who believes that if there is an understanding to reach, we have to be calm, collective, and respectful to eachother, otherwise you will not receive the respect of being heard. I am now a believer that being diplomatic is truly the best for all. To help eachother co-exist. Non-violence, respect, common ground and common sense. THATS what I truly believe. Ranchers and hunters, if you will listen, we will listen to you back. All only if there is respect from one another.

All, please be well.

[WDFW-SUX]

Next time Im pissing on a dead wolf in a fresh hole Ill think of you.


 

[MtnMuley]

I believe Wolves in the end will strengthen the herds and make hunting more worth-while, and the Elk or Deer you bag will be much healthier for you to consume.

Not a chance.

Hello,

I DO NOT intend to shoot anyone who shoots Wolves

Very smart, because anyone that shoots a wolf will have a gun and "skills" to shoot back.

[Wacenturion]

Boy, that sure was a 180....if you think that's going to buy you any credibility you're related to a rock.

Oh and as far as your one and only post...........thank you!  Goodbye

[Pathfinder101]

Welcome back Diplomat/Virfirnus.
Nice to see that anger management class helped.  I think you will find most of the hunters on this site are reasonable, passionate people.  I think you will also find that many of us will back up our ideas with facts.  Hopefully, when you dialoge about a subject like wolves, (that you are equally passionate about) that you will be able to present research and facts as well, and not just point fingers and scream myths, feelings and propoganda.  
I think if you will go back and review this thread, you will see that much of your logic in your original post was unfounded, and quite frankly ridiculous.  I am not so much referring to your posts about the wolves themselves, but your view of hunters in general.
Glad to hear that you don't actually advocate violence against us or eco-terrorism.  
Best of luck getting your name off that "watch list"...

[Curly]

Next time Im pissing on a dead wolf in a fresh hole Ill think of you.


 

[Woodchuck]

certainly a little different stance than the first post, maybe i am just a suspicious guy but i smell a rat. i know i am not ready to do a 180 from my beliefs at the drop of a hat, i smell trouble

[Mudeater]

Hello,

This will be my one and only post. You may remember me a *censored*. . All only if there is respect from one another.

All, please be well.

I eliminated all that was unimportant to me and based on whats left, probably not as there is a complete lack for respect for you at this time, as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps if you could pay for the funeral of the young women that was recently killed in Alaska by your beloved wolfs then go live with that same wolf pack for say a week, then get back to me and we could talk again. Just one last quick question, are you related to Timothy Treadwell? With a complete lack of regard, Mudeater

[PA BEN]

"Shoot them all! Wolves don't belong here!", and the sort shows the true ignorance of you psuedo-hunters. How about this, you shoot a Wolf, and we'll shoot YOU."
All I have to say is bring it on, "I shoot back."
DIP S#!t

[wolfbait]

(Ranchers and hunters, if you will listen, we will listen to you back. All only if there is respect from one another.)

Who's we? Have you even seen the damage the wolves have done to the ranchers and wildlife? Would you like to explain your line of thinking to the relatives of the people who will get killed from the wolves? The environmentalists are making good money with their lies about these wolves begging money from people just like you and lawsuit after lawsuit.


Perhaps if you could pay for the funeral of the young women that was recently killed in Alaska by your beloved wolfs then go live with that same wolf pack for say a week, then get back to me and we could talk again. Just one last quick question, are you related to Timothy Treadwell? With a complete lack of regard, Mudeater

Quote from: WDFW-SUX on Today at 03:11:55 PM
Next time Im pissing on a dead wolf in a fresh hole Ill think of you

[MikeWalking]

I believe Wolves in the end will strengthen the herds and make hunting more worth-while, and the Elk or Deer you bag will be much healthier for you to consume

Fantasy. That's just a Fantasy. The reality has been a disasterous decline in Elk populations, deer also where Wolves have been reintroduced. I listened to a radio interview with a Hunting guide from Montana last week.  The Census count of Elk in his part of the State showed a decline from over 15000 to less than 1700 since Montana brought Wolves back. Officials there also reported finding 15 wolf killed Elk in one spot, many barely or not fed on. Doesn't really fit in with the Disney view of Wolves only taking the old,weak and sick does it?

[snocohunter]

I smell a troll. Definitely not the same guy posting. Can we get an IP check please?

[Pathfinder101]

All you hatemongers and your arguments based on facts

WHat about "feelings"?  Can't you base an argument on those?

What about imagination...er...fantasy...er...I mean imagination...?

 

[magnanimous_j]

WHat about "feelings"?  Can't you base an argument on those?

Those are called feelings, they are based on emotion. A lot of women have those.

Men tend to rely on facts and logic