Washington State Bird Dog Challenge

[Wayne1]

Washington State Bird Dog Challenge event is being held on September 5/6 and October 3/4 at Burlington Ranch in Chewelah, WA.
 
Pointer and Flusher Divisions.  One 20 minute run to produce 3 birds.  
Championship Points and trophies awarded.  Cash payout in the Top-gun class
www.NBDCS.com / www.burlingtonranch.com
 
Come out and see how your dog can do in the field before hunting season.
Plus, you get champion points for your dog and a trophy!!!  
 
Come on, get off the couch and have some fun!!!!  We have a great time working our dogs for the day.

[Birdguy]

Wayne, the Wife, kids and I are planning on being there. I took Friday off to head over and we will be there Saturday for sure and probably part of Sunday before heading back this direction to check on the game cams and fish a bit on the way home. I will certainly make the effort to find you. Bought the kids a youth model 870 20 ga. today so we will run a few rounds through that as well. The daughter is planning on pheasant hunting this fall and both of them hope to get a turkey next spring. Have a great week.

[Wayne1]

"Awesome"... Ya'll have a safe trip over. We'll see ya when ya get here. I'll be running "Tank" in the pointing divison, and then I'll be judging the rest of the day.

[surfj9009]

What would be a good time to show up for spectating?

[Wayne1]

I'll be there at 7 am, and figure the Challange will start around 8....  make sure ya bring a chair..  ...  maybe even some binoc's.

[follow maggie]

I watch it on TV.  I'm going to head over for the Oct show.  I'd sure like to see it in real life.  Do I need tickets or reservations, or anything?  Probably will just make a day trip out of it.

[Wayne1]

Nope..  it's all a freebee...  unless your running a dog in the event..

[surfj9009]

Ahhhh. Binocs. Good call

[Happy Gilmore]

do you need to sign up in advance or when you show up? not sure I could make it over but, if time allows, I have some ground over there I can hunt too.

[Wayne1]

Would be nice if you could call Mark and let him know ahead of time....  but there are folk's that sign up the day of the event...  just nice to know how many dog's, just to make sure we've ordered enough birds

[Happy Gilmore]

Would be nice if you could call Mark and let him know ahead of time....  but there are folk's that sign up the day of the event...  just nice to know how many dog's, just to make sure we've ordered enough birds

I'll be at Rodeo this weekend but, OCT may be an interesting date....

[Birdguy]

Wayne, it was nice to see you again. Sorry the conditions were not better for you and the dogs. I will be back over to watch another challenge when the conditions are better. I am glad that stuff is going on. It was fun to watch. How did Tank do in the afternoon? Hope it did not get too much warmer.

[boneaddict]

How did it go Wayne?  Weather probably was a bear.  Any Tank news.  Love the looks of that dog.

[Wayne1]

Holy Crap was it hot..  was not a day you wanted to have your dog in the field. By the time Tank ran, it was afternoon..  hot, dry, and birds were running and not holding..  Tanks nose did an awesome job.. he got on 5 bird's within the first 3 minutes, but just about the time he'd go on point..  the birds would flush on thier own. We ended up with 2 bird's, but had to use the whole 20 minutes, and my shooting was'nt up to par..   Tank did his job like a pro...  just circumstance's we'rnt in our favor, and the heat was getting to Tank around the 12 minute mark...  just way to hot. All in all..  we still had a good day...  Got to spend time with my favorite hunting partner, and he got feathers in his mouth. Hopefully the Challange in Oct. will be alot cooler. Also hope it'll be cooler come Sept. 26-27th. Have some kid's linded up to take out for Youth early opener for Pheasant

 On one of the birds that flushed early...   and hawk swooped in about 50 yards in front of us and snached it out of the air.

[jetjockey]

How hot was it?  Do you guys condition your dogs to run 20 minute stakes?     I just watched the BDC video.  Kinda cool.  Looks really close to NSTRA.

[Wayne1]

it was in the 90's......trust me..   during normal condition's...   my dog's can run for quite awhile...  but in that heat..  thats pushing the envelope...  anyone who run's thier dog's longer than the 20 minute's...  is a fool...  I've seen dog's go down that were in great shape..  in alittle cooler weather.. and in shorter period's of time.....  All the game's we play...  ain't worth loosing my dog's for...  hell.. Last summer I remember pulling Tank out after 15 minute's..   again it was in the 90's...  Tank did'nt want to quit...  but I made the decision.

[jetjockey]

THanks.  I was just curious...................

Do they put water tubs in the fields so the dogs can cool off?  Down here in Georgia we run dogs in NSTRA during some pretty warm weather.  But, most fields have water tubs for the dogs to cool off in.  We also don't see any labs that hunt upland because of the heat.  Hell, my lab doesn't like to go outside once it hits about 85. When it gets really hot in July and August we have to keep him inside in the AC. But hes kind of a sissy.      I was asking because I wasn't sure how much guys "conditioned" their dogs back home.  Here in GA its a must or your dog will go down.  In S. Dakota last weekend we were running dogs for 1 hour+ in temps that were around 85-89 degrees.  The dogs had no problem with the heat.  The collars said they were covering anywhere from 8-10 miles in a 1 hour session.  BUT, the dogs get roaded at least three times a week for about 10 miles.......  Your quote about the temps is what sparked my interest.   Just for grins, here is a picture of the roading setup my trainer uses.  Ive seen a bunch of other styles, but this one can do 12 dogs at once.  Pretty cool.

[Wayne1]

That one kewl set-up. I leave for work early in the morning's...  so have no time for roading... it's been hot here during the summer..  and never really cools down in the evening to do any roading either. We train for short period's of time during the week..   but on the week-end we spend about 4-5 hour's training..  we do all land work early..   then later we do all of our water work. my main pointing lab weight's around 78-80 lb's...  so he does much better during the cooler weather come Oct. I have a 1 year old pointing lab female that turned 1 year last week...   she weight's in at 58 lb's so she should have more indurence than my male. Even all the GSP's and pointer's last week-end were having a tought time in the heat.

[jetjockey]

Not to get off subject, but how do you like pointing labs (a stupid question I know ).  Can you get them to point as staunch as an EP or ES?   How broke can you train them to be?  My uncle has one, and my wife loves labs (the reason we have one).  But Im a hard core Brittany guy.  Our lab is geting up there in age.  Hes almost 10 now but hes still doing really well.  I know the inevitable will happen someday though and its going to be devistating since hes such and awesome dog.  My wife says she might want another lab and I was thinking a pointing lab might be the way to go, but I'm still worried about one in the Georgia heat.  THis is ES and EP country here in the south.  Even though Buddy set all kinds of NSTRA records people still look at Brits kinda funny, and the only labs you see are waterfowl dogs.   Id like more brits, but I could "settle" with another lab.

[Wayne1]

LOL...   of course owning a couple of pointing lab's..  I'm kinda partial..   Since I enjoy both upland, and waterfowl...  I don't need several differend breed's..  And yes..  They are very staunch pointer's. Mine never had to be taught to point..  it all came natural from thier breeding...  I just had to teach the "Whoo" command...  very steady to shot and wing. There are so many fine breed's of hunting dog's out there.. I guess a hunter just need's to find which one fit's thier need's...  and the pointing lab wasy choice.

Side note:   A German Wirehaired Pointer, won the challange