These bucks are safe from me. I do bowhunt, but I have a rifle tag to hunt out on the Islands in the Puget Sound. These two are only 1 block east of Meridian in Puyallup up by the South Hill Mall thats how they got this big is by living between the homes where you would have to have GREAT BIG BRASS BALLS to shot one there. Even if you did getting one out would be the hard part.