Dead buck already?

[Dmanmastertracker]

 Had to be Meshootemdeadbuckem, he's been known to prowl those parts. Last seen with Mel Brooks.

[DeKuma]

Saw a bull in the back of a truck in traffic on 405 last week, but could not get the plate as we were on opposite sides of the barrier.  I did not get a look at the driver through the tinted windows either............

[shanevg]

I know that "deer season" opens for the natives on August 1 so...

[sagerat]

I was thinking tribal too, didn't get a plate cause I was in disbelief of what I saw. Pretty nice buck though with bloody velvet hanging from the rack. Probably one of their "ceremonial" kills. You know the kind, out the window, with a modern rifle, the buck in somebodys pasture, bottle of "cough medicine" between the legs.... 

[rezboy]

I was thinking tribal too, didn't get a plate cause I was in disbelief of what I saw. Pretty nice buck though with bloody velvet hanging from the rack. Probably one of their "ceremonial" kills. You know the kind, out the window, with a modern rifle, the buck in somebodys pasture, bottle of "cough medicine" between the legs....  

Hey, you know what?  My 14 year old son has a tribal buck tag right now for the westside.  Completely legal, with an actual tag.  Would it be wrong or "piss you off" just because he has the right to do it??  It's for buck only.  And by the way, its not a "ceremonial tag" (I doubt if you even know what that means); it's actually for substanence.  (which means to eat)  And trust me, I would tell him to shoot a 3 point or a 4 point or any other buck for that matter.  And, probably to your disbelief, he is not allowed to shoot from the window (since he took a hunter's safety course; go figure, huh?) and yes, it would be with a modern rifle.... get over it.... that's what I hunt with during general season and he has the right to do so during his season.  


Sorry if this pisses people off.... but come on....  call in the plate and check if your that concerned.  Don't assume and speak without thinking..

[rezboy]

Oh yeah, I forgot, he has a bull tag too....  (once again legal, with an actual tag) 

[bowtech721]

Thats good to hear but you guys are the exception...

[rezboy]

I appreciate that man...  It really tweeks my hide reading all this BS.  My son is half caucasian and half Native American and I will be damned if I stop him from his right just because people have a problem that he can do it and they can't.  Damn, he is a kid just like all the other kids of the men on this site (but not really because he is an enrolled Native American, right?)  I would love to eventually get him on this site because there are so many good people, but I am actually worried about what he'll read or see.  Does anybody think about that when they post deragatory comments about "Indians"?  All the administrators preach that this is a "family" site, but come on, do you really think I would let my son read this thread for example???  

[actionshooter]

I appreciate that man...  It really tweeks my hide reading all this BS.  My son is half caucasian and half Native American and I will be damned if I stop him from his right just because people have a problem that he can do it and they can't.  Damn, he is a kid just like all the other kids of the men on this site (but not really because he is an enrolled Native American, right?)  I would love to eventually get him on this site because there are so many good people, but I am actually worried about what he'll read or see.  Does anybody think about that when they post deragatory comments about "Indians"?  All the administrators preach that this is a "family" site, but come on, do you really think I would let my son read this thread for example???   

It is unfortunate that almost all indians are lumped into the same category because there are guys who don't follow the rules. A lot of non natives get pissed when you see or hear about the small percentage who kill several elk a year, spotlight, waste meat ect. 
 Its good to see your point of view

[rezboy]

I appreciate that man...  It really tweeks my hide reading all this BS.  My son is half caucasian and half Native American and I will be damned if I stop him from his right just because people have a problem that he can do it and they can't.  Damn, he is a kid just like all the other kids of the men on this site (but not really because he is an enrolled Native American, right?)  I would love to eventually get him on this site because there are so many good people, but I am actually worried about what he'll read or see.  Does anybody think about that when they post deragatory comments about "Indians"?  All the administrators preach that this is a "family" site, but come on, do you really think I would let my son read this thread for example???  

It is unfortunate that almost all indians are lumped into the same category because there are guys who don't follow the rules. A lot of non natives get pissed when you see or hear about the small percentage who kill several elk a year, spotlight, waste meat ect.  
 Its good to see your point of view

Very good point.  But I guarantee that I would never let my son think that all Non-Native hunters are "bad" or allow him to speak about them in a deragatory manner because there are Non-Native poachers out there.  He understands that poachers (native or non-native) are a different breed of people that don't respect other people or the gifts that we have been givin to us.  He also understands that people aren't "lumped" together just because that's the easiest way to assume things...    

I do appreciate your response Action.  

[EastWaViking]

There are lazy slob "hunters" of every race. I'm just tired of special rights for people because of their skin color, or the fact they are some tiny percentage minority.  Affirmative action, and reservations need to be history.  Everybody is equal what ever color they are, or whoever was here first, second or third and all laws need to be applied equally also, including hunting regulations.  

[bear]

I'm sorry rezboy, but any person in this country that gets special rights just because of the color of his skin is gonna be subject to criticism.  It's a fact of life.  You seem like a law abiding good guy, but you get lumped in a "category" because of your special rights.  It's no different than the people who get their college education payed for just because of their skin color.  All this special treatment just caused racism.  Do most of the people who post these derogatory remarks think that they are better than you?  I don't think so.  I think we are a little jealous of the special privileges.  Is it your fault that you have these privileges?  No.  I would probably take advantage of the privileges too.  But it comes with a price.  You will be looked down on by people who don't have these privileges.  I'd like to, as most of the people on this website also would like to, see this racial discrimination eliminated.  I HAVE A DREAM as I guy once said.  Bear

[rezboy]

I understand your opinion, but that is the way it is.  I can't change it, nor can my son.  (I don't think you can either.)  That's why my son only shoots what he has a tag for and that's it.  Really, how is that any different than what you or I are allowed to do?


And once again, I am not the enrolled member.  My son is.  He's a kid man, and trust me, he does it the right way and the way that I was taught growing up. 

[bear]

I understand your opinion, but that is the way it is.  I can't change it, nor can my son.  (I don't think you can either.)  That's why my son only shoots what he has a tag for and that's it.  Really, how is that any different than what you or I are allowed to do?


And once again, I am not the enrolled member.  My son is.  He's a kid man, and trust me, he does it the right way and the way that I was taught growing up. 

Why do we need to have different hunting seasons?  I know you don't make the rules and I appreciate that you follow them just as if I appreciate those of us who follow them.  Aren't we all hunting in the same country?

[rezboy]

Believe it or not, his tags and seasons aren't much different than state seasons.  And does that really matter since he's only allowed to shoot the same amount of animals as a Non-tribal member?  He has to place a tag on them just as we do.  He even has to report it to the tribe.  I don't really see the fault in that.