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WHERE HAVE ALL THE SMELT GONE?
« on: December 16, 2007, 05:32:20 AM »
Wildlife has just projected poor returns for smelt again this year. Boooo! I still want to know; are poor returns an indication of "poor ocean conditions" as stated by wildlife, or rather good conditions for all the species which prey on smelt? Good for one is usually bad for the other...?

Also of note; conditions in my freezer are poor regarding smelt, and from the looks of things may be so for another year.  :(



WDFW NEWS RELEASE
December 14, 2007

Smelt season on Cowlitz River again
limited to 1 day per week

OLYMPIA - Starting Jan. 5, the Cowlitz River will be open to smelt dipping from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. each Saturday through March 29, under rules adopted by Washington fishery managers.  Like last year, the daily catch limit will be 10 pounds per person

All other tributaries to the Columbia River in Washington state will remain closed to smelt fishing until further notice.

As during the past two seasons, most indicators point to another year of poor smelt returns to rivers in the Pacific Northwest, said Brad James, fish biologist for the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW).

"Smelt populations tend to be variable, and now appear to be in a period of low abundance similar to the one we experienced in the mid-1990s," James said.  "Smelt populations are also down in British Columbia, suggesting that poor ocean conditions are a likely factor in the current downturn."

Based on current projections, fishing seasons for recreational and commercial smelt fisheries on tributaries to the Columbia River are designed to be conservative, James said. 

"We'll be watching the run closely, and will modify the season if it turns out to be stronger than expected or if the run size appears to be very low," he said.  "Agency staff will review the results of the run in mid-February and consider any necessary changes in fishing seasons after that date."

Of less concern is the sport fishery for smelt on the lower Columbia River, where a scarcity of bank access and the dispersal of spawning locations limits catch rates, James said.  That fishery opens New Year's Day and is scheduled to run seven days per week through March 31. 
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Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE SMELT GONE?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2007, 08:15:19 AM »
Ask the commercial fishermen.. :dunno:




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Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE SMELT GONE?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 10:52:52 AM »
I'm with you Iceman, 3 years in a row now. I dont eat it but like to use it for sturgeon bait on the lower Columbia. Somehow the sturgeon know the difference between Columbia River smelt and store bought, they wont touch store bought for nothing. I see they lowered the sturgeon quota this year by a third, thats going to hurt.
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Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE SMELT GONE?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2007, 12:15:15 PM »
I think ti si a combo of things. The drift nets in BC are not helping, plus the ocean conditions (maybe good for salmon but not so good for smelt). Plus the water conditions in the cowlitz and other lower columbia have not been great for the last few years. So i think most of the smelt in the last few years have ended up spawning in the columbia.

And if you read the article there is a reason they lowered the quota, and the fishermen in the last few years agreed to it.

They had a 3 year quota set up, if you eat up the quota in the first 2 you will have none for the last year...
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Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE SMELT GONE?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2007, 12:35:49 PM »
Cohoho posted that he used to go smelting in Yooper Land. That is nearly a thing of the past there too. The only nets in the Great Lakes as far as I know are the Native Americans.

We used to harvest smelt every spring with my Boy Scout Troop so we could put on a smelt fry to earn money for our activities. Now, the boys rely on bake sales, pasta dinners, etc.

This is a good question. Where are they?

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Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE SMELT GONE?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2007, 12:45:41 PM »
"And if you read the article there is a reason they lowered the quota, and the fishermen in the last few years agreed to it."

I did read the article, thats what I was referring to. If you read my post again I was simply stating the fact, I wasn't complaining.
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Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE SMELT GONE?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 05:16:51 PM »
Just wondering if any smelt have shown up in the columbia, or the cowlitz yet? My guess is probably not, but you never know.

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Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE SMELT GONE?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2008, 06:36:29 PM »
Keep checking Bob's in Longview, they post a daily report when the smelt start showing. Save it to your favorites....

http://www.bobsmerch.com/events/smeltinfo.htm

No smelt to date, they haven't started posting for 08'.

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Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE SMELT GONE?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2008, 09:35:01 PM »
thanks, just read in the newspaper that there is nothing yet.

 


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