Best 270?

[Jamieb]

I clicked on the link Josh posted and when the video was playing I noticed I could check out the rest of the video and pictures on my photobucket account. I dont know if I had access becuse it recognised my ISP or if everyone can access all my pictures. Not that I have anything on there that I dont want the public to see but can the rest of you access my pictures from Josh's link?

[dontgetcrabs]

Yep, I can see them.

[Jamieb]

Hmmm, I never noticed that before.

[dontgetcrabs]

Nice looking bear.   

[Buckmark]

C-Money... I don't think you know Jamie very well... and calling him "son" ain't painting a flattering picture of you. Jamie is far too humble to post this video in response to you calling him out... so I will. 1000 yards, factory 7mm Rem in a McM stock... don't see too many videos of this sort featuring a .270 Winny... if you have one, by all means we'd love to see it...

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v376/elkhunter/?action=view&current=turretvideo.flv

  Who would be taking a 1000yd shot at an animal?  

Go to gunwerks.com

[Buckmark]

josht I think we see eye to eye on the whole foot pounds of energy bs.

Foot lbs are not bs, actually a law of physics.
Try this, take a baseball and a bowling ball.
put them on a table, now drop the golf ball on your foot, it will displace its energy into your foot, fells ok right.
Now do the same with the bowling ball.
when you stop hopping around lets us know what happened...

[jeepasaurusrex]

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I wear steel toe boots. 

[JoshT]

josht I think we see eye to eye on the whole foot pounds of energy bs.

Foot lbs are not bs, actually a law of physics.
Try this, take a baseball and a bowling ball.
put them on a table, now drop the golf ball on your foot, it will displace its energy into your foot, fells ok right.
Now do the same with the bowling ball.
when you stop hopping around lets us know what happened...

A .22/250 and a .44 mag develop the same amount ft/lbs of energy... one will go through an elk endlong... the other rarely exits a coyote. ft/lbs aren't bs... they're a fact... but the way everyone uses them as a benchmark for perfomance on game is one of the greatest falacies in hunting. Bullet design, shot placement, and momentum are all more important than "energy".

Also... don't forget that for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction... that's important in this because you're only transfering 1/2 of the "ft/lbs" to the animal... best case scenario. The rest of the energy is used to "do work" on the bullet (opposite and equal) to the work being done on the critter.

[Buckmark]

josht I think we see eye to eye on the whole foot pounds of energy bs.

Foot lbs are not bs, actually a law of physics.
Try this, take a baseball and a bowling ball.
put them on a table, now drop the golf ball on your foot, it will displace its energy into your foot, fells ok right.
Now do the same with the bowling ball.
when you stop hopping around lets us know what happened...

Not arguing, i get the idea you know what your talking about and i think you understand what im saying 


A .22/250 and a .44 mag develop the same amount ft/lbs of energy... one will go through an elk endlong... the other rarely exits a coyote. ft/lbs aren't bs... they're a fact... but the way everyone uses them as a benchmark for perfomance on game is one of the greatest falacies in hunting. Bullet design, shot placement, and momentum are all more important than "energy".

Also... don't forget that for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction... that's important in this because you're only transfering 1/2 of the "ft/lbs" to the animal... best case scenario. The rest of the energy is used to "do work" on the bullet (opposite and equal) to the work being done on the critter.

Not arguing, i get the idea you know what your talking about and i think you understand what im saying 
Now if a "smart car" and a Peterbuilt hauling a trailer load of jeepasaurarex's steel toed boots is about to hit us t-boned in a rented prius (really i dont think either of us would own one) while on our way to a match shoot with .270's, which one will we most likely walk away from???

[Jamieb]

josht I think we see eye to eye on the whole foot pounds of energy bs.

Foot lbs are not bs, actually a law of physics.
Try this, take a baseball and a bowling ball.
put them on a table, now drop the golf ball on your foot, it will displace its energy into your foot, fells ok right.
Now do the same with the bowling ball.
when you stop hopping around lets us know what happened...

Not arguing, i get the idea you know what your talking about and i think you understand what im saying 



A .22/250 and a .44 mag develop the same amount ft/lbs of energy... one will go through an elk endlong... the other rarely exits a coyote. ft/lbs aren't bs... they're a fact... but the way everyone uses them as a benchmark for perfomance on game is one of the greatest falacies in hunting. Bullet design, shot placement, and momentum are all more important than "energy".

Also... don't forget that for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction... that's important in this because you're only transfering 1/2 of the "ft/lbs" to the animal... best case scenario. The rest of the energy is used to "do work" on the bullet (opposite and equal) to the work being done on the critter.

Not arguing, i get the idea you know what your talking about and i think you understand what im saying 
Now if a "smart car" and a Peterbuilt hauling a trailer load of jeepasaurarex's steel toed boots is about to hit us t-boned in a rented prius (really i dont think either of us would own one) while on our way to a match shoot with .270's, which one will we most likely walk away from???

I may be off base here but the way I see it, energy measurements ment something when most bullets were constructed similar. With the options we have today(TSX and other tough bullets) its not as important any more.

[Buckmark]

Energy is still energy, bullet contruction has made better use of the energy avail, noslers were made out of
 2 different metals that could come apart and not deliver the avail energy into the animal, and if you pushed them too fast they came apart or would not stabalize. Then a cool company in utah called barnes bullets developed the X bullet, solid contruction, with great expansion and very good weight retention, the bullet (mass) expanded and stayed together, therfor delivering its energy into the animal, problem was they were long bullets and would not always handload to max specs without feeding problems.
Then they added polymers to the tip, so it could be a bit shorted and  loaded to max pressures in alot of calibers and now they are the ducks guts, but the energy is still the same, a full metal jacket fired with the same weight fired at the same fps from the same rifle has "X" ftlbs of energy at 100yds but if it does not expand and transfer that energy than it wont have the same effect.
remember a 150 grain bullet is a 150 grain bullet, you have to get the most energy you can to transfer to your target on impact..

[jeepasaurusrex]

Sooo.... 

Whats the best .270?




 

[Red Dawg]

  the only topic that rival politics on this forum is ballistics.

[JoshT]

Sooo.... 

Whats the best .270?




 

The one that says "7mm Rem Mag" on the barrel.

[C-Money]

My pickup is stock, no lift kit.