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Offline JoeVon

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2009, 06:19:22 PM »
This has been the worst year I can remember for these kind of stories.  Not sure the reason but I have a pretty good theory.  Makes me sick :bash:

I was thinking the same thing. :dunno:

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2009, 06:29:46 PM »
This has been the worst year I can remember for these kind of stories.  Not sure the reason but I have a pretty good theory.  Makes me sick :bash:

Don't hold us in suspence, whats your theory  :dunno:
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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2009, 07:31:22 PM »

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Don't hold us in suspence, whats your theory 

Archery hunting participation has increased dramatically over the last few years either from multiseason tags, media, internet or whatever.  There is a ton of new archers hunting that will get the latest technology, stand out in there yard in the summer and shoot 50-75 yards all day long.  Technology has made archery relatively easy to learn in a short amount of time.  Then comes hunting season these folks get an animal out there-they have made that shot 100 times at the backyard taget and the game totally changes. The animal moves, jumps, jacket gets caught in the string, etc..  There is a ton of inexperience out in the field.  I am not saying everyone can't enjoy archery but I think a mandatory bowhunter education wouldn't be a bad idea.  I know you can't fix stupid but it has to help.

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2009, 07:38:09 PM »
If the bulls are jumpy, i guess it is because so many of them appear to be pricked

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2009, 07:52:42 PM »
My first thought was the multiseason tags. How many jokers pick up a bow just b/c they now get more time to hunt?

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2009, 08:10:04 PM »
how much of this are we hearing about now that the internet is alive and well in the hunting community? how much did we just not hear about on here before we had 4k members posting all their stories?
i know of 2, maybe 3 wounded not recovered animals shot by hunters who are long experienced bow hunters.
all these wounded animals we are hearing about is ridiculous. i completely understand *censored* happens at times, and it will happen to the best of us...as much as we don't like to think about it.
what surprises me more is the number of people airing it out for the world to see. God forbid it happens to me, but if it does, i won't be posting stories about it on the net for all the world to see.
mandatory bowhunter ed is a great idea.
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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2009, 08:11:41 PM »
My first thought was the multiseason tags. How many jokers pick up a bow just b/c they now get more time to hunt?

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2009, 08:17:44 PM »
Did you take a father son out? Gregs brother told me they ended up sticking 4, between the 2 of em, recovering none.... Not to mention a 360&380 bull stuck and lost in the Dayton, within 24 hours by another pard, that wasn't shooting, but did the calling. The 360 was recovered 2 days later. You had nothing to do with the Dayton bulls oviously, just saying, getting real tired of guys taking hurried shots, not being proficient with their equipment, etc.

 :( :( I think my neighbor was the guy who stuck the 380+ in the Dayton.  He said it was a monster 7x7 and he looked for it for almost 10 hours with no recovery...  He even went back the next weekend and nothing??? :bash:

From what i've been hearing, your neighbor was the third...  >:(   If I'm correct Jud's pard called in the 380 first for the guy he was hunting with, then hooked up with a kid that was over there and called in the 360 bull.  At least the kid punched his tag on the 360 bull from what i've heard.

Yup, you guessed it Joe. 380 was conservative, pard said it was more like 400. Felt like puking. Felt bad for all invoved. I've have also heard of several more. I also am for a bowhunter course/test of some kind.
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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2009, 08:20:43 PM »
how much of this are we hearing about now that the internet is alive and well in the hunting community? how much did we just not hear about on here before we had 4k members posting all their stories?
i know of 2, maybe 3 wounded not recovered animals shot by hunters who are long experienced bow hunters.
all these wounded animals we are hearing about is ridiculous. i completely understand *censored* happens at times, and it will happen to the best of us...as much as we don't like to think about it.
what surprises me more is the number of people airing it out for the world to see. God forbid it happens to me, but if it does, i won't be posting stories about it on the net for all the world to see.
mandatory bowhunter ed is a great idea.

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2009, 08:25:24 PM »
Did you take a father son out? Gregs brother told me they ended up sticking 4, between the 2 of em, recovering none.... Not to mention a 360&380 bull stuck and lost in the Dayton, within 24 hours by another pard, that wasn't shooting, but did the calling. The 360 was recovered 2 days later. You had nothing to do with the Dayton bulls oviously, just saying, getting real tired of guys taking hurried shots, not being proficient with their equipment, etc.

 :( :( I think my neighbor was the guy who stuck the 380+ in the Dayton.  He said it was a monster 7x7 and he looked for it for almost 10 hours with no recovery...  He even went back the next weekend and nothing??? :bash:

From what i've been hearing, your neighbor was the third...  >:(   If I'm correct Jud's pard called in the 380 first for the guy he was hunting with, then hooked up with a kid that was over there and called in the 360 bull.  At least the kid punched his tag on the 360 bull from what i've heard.

Yup, you guessed it Joe. 380 was conservative, pard said it was more like 400. Felt like puking. Felt bad for all invoved. I've have also heard of several more. I also am for a bowhunter course/test of some kind.


Figured that was what went on Jud. 

I too am for mandatory bowhunter education.  It'd at least weed out the guys that didn't REALLY want to do it.  I don't think its a "cure all", but it definitely wouldn't hurt.

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2009, 08:33:05 PM »
I think the draw odds have alot to do with it. Rifle hunters and ML hunters  put in for 10-15 years without getting drawn and then you have people getting drawn for peaches and toutle regularly with 5 points.
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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2009, 08:37:13 PM »

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Don't hold us in suspence, whats your theory 

Archery hunting participation has increased dramatically over the last few years either from multiseason tags, media, internet or whatever.  There is a ton of new archers hunting that will get the latest technology, stand out in there yard in the summer and shoot 50-75 yards all day long.  Technology has made archery relatively easy to learn in a short amount of time.  Then comes hunting season these folks get an animal out there-they have made that shot 100 times at the backyard taget and the game totally changes. The animal moves, jumps, jacket gets caught in the string, etc..  There is a ton of inexperience out in the field.  I am not saying everyone can't enjoy archery but I think a mandatory bowhunter education wouldn't be a bad idea.  I know you can't fix stupid but it has to help.
  Good points Ryan, I also tend to think it has become increasingly easy to go down and pick up a bugle and go out and call in bulls, hence them being call shy!  Sorry to hear that Norse, I am sure you guy's have worked hard and for it to play out like that sucks!

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2009, 08:38:38 PM »
Here's a great example for ya. Last year on my way to work, I spotted a good bull, 270 type bull, good one for over here. Called shep and Pete,"pards', they were already balls deep into walk in unit. Last resort, call a guy up the road that I've known for 20 years, one of my bro's pards. He rips down, I bail in with him, Dave hands me 3 arrows, and a 3 pack of broadheads, tells me, "you wanna put those together for me"? I bout *censored* my pants!! Huh? you don't spin test your arrows/broadheads? Practice with them? Nah, just screw em on and go! Thankfully the bull hit the re-prod before he got into action. 2 days later another guy stuck it, never to be seen again until rifle season, then it met its demise to a 300 Roy. Buddy dug the broadhead outta its shoulder. Here's said bull...
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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2009, 08:39:49 PM »
Really? A bow hunters test...lol. That is ridiculous. Its not like this is really going to improve the issue of animals being wounded. Do you really think that this is going to improve the number of wounded animals? Guys need to be more responsible, ethical and fricken practice shooting their bows for more than 2 or 3 weeks before the season. Try shooting through out the year and oh by the way actually shoot with their broadheads since field tips do not kill animals. Pus if you notice a majority of the wounded animals are from bowhunters trying to kill elk. Remember its not all about speed as much as it about penetration and shot placement. Buy heavier arrows, practice shooting the broadheads and fricken start taken more time.

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Re: Horrible year guiding in Peaches!
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2009, 08:42:10 PM »
Really? A bow hunters test...lol. That is ridiculous. Its not like this is really going to improve the issue of animals being wounded. Do you really think that this is going to improve the number of wounded animals? Guys need to be more responsible, ethical and fricken practice shooting their bows for more than 2 or 3 weeks before the season. Try shooting through out the year and oh by the way actually shoot with their broadheads since field tips do not kill animals. Pus if you notice a majority of the wounded animals are from bowhunters trying to kill elk. Remember its not all about speed as much as it about penetration and shot placement. Buy heavier arrows, practice shooting the broadheads and fricken start taken more time.

I believe with Idaho's bowhunter exam that shooting is a part of the test...

 


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