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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2009, 08:07:02 AM »
Remington Sendero.

My stock trigger is 2 1/2 lbs and breaks like glass.  Sub MOA groups.

shoot-em-dead, the question is a valid one.  There are rifles that are known for being accurate right from the factory while others require a trigger job, bedding, etc. to get them to shoot accurately.

I would argue that the Remingtons are the least accurate out of the box for the average shooter.  Accuracy comes from a series of events leading up to trigger pull and going on from there.  IMO the trigger pull is set way to heavy on Remingtons. 

I understand that the gun is still accurate, more accurate than the shooter's ability, but the trigger pull on it makes it more difficult to be "out of the box" accurate for the average shooter.

PS.  I own a Remmy and would buy another one in a heart beat.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2009, 09:13:19 AM »
my wife(not the most experienced shooter) was shooting 3/4 inch groups out of the box with her CZ 550 luxus 30.06 with a nikon prostaff 3-9x50.   I was very impressed and she loved the gun.  Hand carved stock and a well made mauser action it is a really nice rifle.  usually a bit cheaper than a rem700 too.

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2009, 09:23:29 AM »
tbrady....I think you have a lot of very good opinions given on this site to choose from. To me it sounds like you could pick one your comfortable and pleased with. I myself have more than one ( or two, or three )  makes of rifle in my safe. And most of them I am happy with. I love this site....everyone is more then happy to give sugestions or opinions :chuckle:
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2009, 11:02:12 AM »
CZ, Savage and Tikka under $600, then move to Sako.
CZ blued walnut guns look nicest, Tikka for light weight.

Remmies have their fans, but you're really buying a starting point and expect to spend $ to make it compete with those listed above. 
Rugers don't even get in the competion and I've owned 3 of them.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2009, 11:33:57 AM »
Most every quality rifle out there today that you buy off the rack will shoot better than the person behind the stock will ever get it to do, accuracy is best measured from a gun vice, then find out how "accurate" you are with gun.
Lots of opinions on makes and models, far to many shoorters buy what they are told is the "best" most accurate gun and think it will imporve there shooting ability when in fact most guns that dont shoot well are not the true problem, improper cleaning, care and bullet selection can cause groups to open up.
Buying the most accurate gun you think is out there wont make you shoot better, shooting alot makes you shoot better.
Browning or a Roy is my opinion, tikkas/Howas?? sure they shoot good, Rem 700? ok, my old model 70 in 30-06 is scarry accurate and my remington .244 from the early 60's shoots just as good as some new "most accurate" stuff out there..
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2009, 11:43:25 AM »
Rem Sendero would be my choice.  I've had good luck with each one I've bought.  However, each gun by each manufacturer is different.  Some guns shoot tight and some don't.  For example, buy 5 Ruger Hawkeyes in .270 win and break them in the same.  Then go to the range with the exact same load.  I'm not going to use the word guarantee, but I'd bet there's a shooter and one that isn't. :twocents:

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2009, 12:14:02 PM »
There's lost of good ones.

I own Remingtons, Tikkas, CZs, and Rugers. I'm working on my first Browning. I'd have to say that all of them shoot good. Good enough to take any game at less than 500 yards. I have never shot any game over 350 anyway. I prefer to get closer. I don't need hair splitting accuracy. Ultimately when the choices come (aside from caliber) I usually go with my Remington 700. Not because it get's the tightest groupings but because it feels solid. That's not to say other rifles are no good or not as good. I just like that solid feeling in their rifles. Yes, they are sometimes a tank to drag around in the high country but I can live with it. Maybe you should try a Browning if they carry the rifle in your caliber. They are real good rifles.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2009, 12:20:19 PM »
Yes, they are sometimes a tank to drag around in the high country but I can live with it.

Well said.

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2009, 12:28:49 PM »
I bought the wife a savage Wal-Mart special in .243. That thing is a very well shooting rifle, I am quite impressed with the accuracy. For under 400.00 with scope, I find it hard to beat.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2009, 12:32:00 PM »
I bought the wife a savage Wal-Mart special in .243. That thing is a very well shooting rifle, I am quite impressed with the accuracy. For under 400.00 with scope, I find it hard to beat.


Thats a decent price for a decent rifle. I agree....hard to beat for the price.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2009, 12:37:02 PM »
Most every quality rifle out there today that you buy off the rack will shoot better than the person behind the stock will ever get it to do, accuracy is best measured from a gun vice, then find out how "accurate" you are with gun.



very well said and absolutely true, my old ruger is capable of way more than me
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2009, 12:41:09 PM »
I LOVE my two Winchester Stainless Classics...both shoot WELL...with the right load I get ragged one-hole groups for the first 3 out of the Featherweight All-Terrain 30-06 and the 5 shot group fits under a nickel.  The 300 WM right now is shooting quarter sized groups with someone ELSES handloads for his rifle...and I'm working up a load for it specificly.

I also have several  vintage Winchesters (1938...) that shoot well..and a pile of Remingtons in a variety of calibers that do well untouched.  Have a Stevens (Savage) that shoots well out fo the box with BALL ammo....M-80 Ball no less.  And a Savage Scout that is good for 1" groups at 100 if i can do my part with the scout mounted scope.

So its more the shooter than the machine...tho there is SOME variation I think that most shoot better than the shooters.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2009, 12:48:00 PM »
I have never bought a rifle new, so I can't add to the discussion as far as that is concerned.  I would look more toward action type, loading/ejecting features, ease of adjusting trigger pull, and quality barrel, rather than a brand name claiming accuracy, when determining what I wanted to purchase.  All of the above will make a bigger difference on accuracy, rather than the brand name.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2009, 01:27:07 PM »
All I can say is stay remmy. All American steel.


 :yeah: Right on brother. Rem. 700........I don't think you could go wrong with that.
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Sorry, :sry: probably not much help for your original question, but I'd stick with Rem.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2009, 04:55:17 PM »


Again, thanks for all the replies :).  The Tikka looks like a great value and a good shooter...  After deer season I'll probably sell the 300saum and get one. 

 


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