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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2009, 11:23:09 PM »
The best out of the box accuracy I have gotten is from a Tikka T3 Lite in 270 Win.
The 2nd best is from a Mauser Model 3000 in 7mm Rem Mag.
The 3rd best was from a Rem M700 Custom Kevlar Mountian Rifle in 280 Rem.

Just my  :twocents:

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2009, 07:03:18 AM »
Kimber Montana in 325WSM and a Ruger M77 MKII Target in 25-06 are the two most accurate out of the box rifles that I've owned.

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2009, 09:31:36 PM »
Many great opinions.  I've owned, and still own several different brands/models and so I too have my opinions.  However, I've never purchased a brand new rifle, so maybe my opinions hold no value.  I will say (in my opinion), for the money, buy a Savage.  I don't like the way they feel though.  I love my old tang safety Ruger m-77.  Shoots better than I can.  One hole five shot groups out of the vise.  I love my Sako's, and my Kimber too.  My old Rem 721 shoots awesome as well. 

I think with the right load, all the current model rifles will shoot well.  The question remains, which ones can you afford, and which feels right to you.

It was mentioned to read about the new models in the gun magazines.  I used to get a magazine called "Gun Tests".  They don't have any sponsors paying a lot of money to advertise in their pages, so you won't have any editorially biased views.  Just the facts.  It's a spendy publication, (because they don't sell advertising space), but worth it in my opinion.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2009, 04:42:03 AM »
I have three. My .300WBY MK V mag syn stainless. Bought 13 years ago. My wifes .270 WBY mag bought on the same day and my Sako TRGS chambered in 7.62 Warbird. They are all equal.

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2009, 10:53:06 AM »
My  :twocents:

The rifles that are produced today are more accurate than 99% of the people holding them.  Some rifles "feel" better than others but as far as accuracy its all about the same.  To really compare you have to take 2 different rifles of the same caliber, with identical ammo, put them on a bench block and completely remove ALL human interaction with the rifle and shoot.  If both of them make one nice hole in the paper but one is in the black, center mass and the other is just outside the black but has an identical size hole, is one more accurate than the other....IMO, no.  One just needs a little more fine tuning.  Most people will be shocked to find out that in a controlled environment a "cheap rifle" will perform just as an "expensive" rifle out of the box.

Most of the problems I have with accuracy have always boiled down to the ammo.  Premium ammo tends to net more consistant results where as say the "bargain bulk box" has alot more "flyers".  Hand loading is the best way to ensure maximum consitancy.

There are always companies that will do little extra things here and there to the rifles they produce to bring consistancy levels higher.  Bedding, triggers, heavier barrels to dissapate heat, crowning, adjustable cheek pieces on the stocks, better optics.  A good rifle shop will "fit" the rifle to the person.  This is all about helping the shooter be more accurate, and not the rifle.

But no matter what you do to a rifle, it will never fix an untrained shooter.  You can give the finest handmade, custom built tac driver on earth to an uneducated shooter and he couldnt hit the broad side of a barn form 100yds.  what it takes is someone that knows how to slow down, relax and use the basic fundementals of shooting.

Since I left the Corps. I am no longer worried about hitting something the size of an apricot at 300yds.  Now as long as I know the physiology of the animal I am after and know where its main pump housing group is at, its not getting away from me.  The trick is forcing your brain to slow down and THINK when that massive B&C world record bull elk comes over the ridge and smiles at you.

After the basic fundamentals are handled, quality ammo it comes down to math, air temp, humidity...all the fun stuff.
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2009, 11:01:33 AM »
Cooper Firearms, but they are a little more.I've had great luck with my Rugers as well. :twocents:

A little more??? Not sure which 700 he is talking about but I would say double the price as a minimum. :dunno: But the Cooper's are amazing guns.

The higher end 700's like the CDL are like $800 now aren't they? Correct me if I'm wrong (Don't even have to ask because I know someone will!  :chuckle:) but you can buy a Kimber for around $900 and it's a better gun all around.  Match grade barrel, prettier wood, way better trigger, shoots tight groups in my experience, and weighs 2 pounds less.   No brainer. :twocents:

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2009, 12:39:16 PM »
 :)Its all opinion and personal experience, You obviously like them but I would not own a Kimber or Cooper either for that matter. Neither one impresses me and yes I have shot them. Savage makes a great barrel but to me its kinda like a cummins in a dodge truck, what a waste. :chuckle:
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2009, 12:53:38 PM »
My ruger is a tack driver

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2009, 04:42:38 PM »
This is one of those topics that most including me cant give a unbiased opinion, we all have our favorites.
I dont own a single rifle that didn't at least get a trigger job. I'm pretty hard to please when it comes to accuracy so when I buy a new rifle I just figure its going to need some tinkering.  The only thing I did to my Tikka is adjust the trigger and worked up a load(very easy)
The Remingtons and Savages I have all got bedding/bbl floating and trigger adjustments but thats all the work they needed. I've never seen a rifle shoot worse after bedding so I bed every rifle before I even mount a scope. A few of the thin bbled rifles I have got the entire bbl chanel bedded.

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #69 on: October 09, 2009, 09:54:42 AM »
This is one of those topics that most including me cant give a unbiased opinion, we all have our favorites.


Everybody has their favorites,that doesn't mean they're right. The question was "the most accurate hunting rifle out of the box".  There has been a lot of "I have a Ruger and its a tackdriver",or I have a Winchester and I can hit a gnats ass at 500yds".

There will always be the chance that the rifle you buy will be highly accurate. There is also the chance you get a lemon that won't shoot less than 3" groups.

What happens if you get that lemon? You're basically SOL.

I voted for Tikka rifles. They have the MOA or better guarantee. The only other manufacturer to come close is Weatherby sub-MOA.

Until a manufacturer comes up with a better guarantee than Tikka or Weatherby, you'd have to say that they're the most accurate rifle out of the box.

 

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #70 on: October 09, 2009, 10:04:46 AM »
In my mind the question can't be answered, I have found that matching ballistics is the most critical, most rifles on the market are going to be just as accurate as the next. Optics and ballistics are where accuracy gets fine tuned, you can't shoot what you can't see. I'm partial to the Thompson Encore though. Just my  :twocents:

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #71 on: October 09, 2009, 10:17:12 AM »

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I have a Winchester and I can hit a gnats ass at 500yds".

What kinda scope do you use to see a gnats ass at 500yds??  :chuckle:

 
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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2009, 09:19:22 PM »


I have a Winchester and I can hit a gnats ass at 500yds".

What kinda scope do you use to see a gnats ass at 500yds??  :chuckle:


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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2009, 09:21:28 PM »
Which ever rifle allows you a good sight picture, controlled breathing, and trigger control.

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Re: Most accurate hunting rifle "out of the box"
« Reply #74 on: October 10, 2009, 09:54:44 AM »
 :)I just tried it, I have a fence post at a measured distance of 500 yards outside, I got out my 06 and there was a gnat on the post, so I shot it but I cant tell if I hit its ass, I was just wondering how you can tell? :chuckle:
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