We are not patient enough to sit on water holes. One goat was decoyed to 25 yards, the second was a spot and stalk and it was actually closer to 20 yards. I am telling you, hunting antelope with a bow is awesome! They are out all day long; you just have to get the right opportunity. For every 10 sneaks that blow up, one works. The nice thing about goats is you get lots of opportuinity to play!