Ridgerunner PM sent. The story on the Alpine buck is we were doing a lot of scouting in the Olympics and weren't really finding what we wanted so the weekend before the season we scouted the Alpine. There were fires up there so plan b, c, and d fell through. We finally made it up into an area and saw 1 buck maybe a mile away, couldn't tell how big. Opening weekend we got cold, wet, fogged in, and had trouble starting a fire. The third morning I was a little dehydrated so I stayed in camp because I felt like sh@t! about 8 I spotted a doe about a mile away on a ridge so I grabbed my rifle and headed that way. 2 more does came over the ridge along with the 3 point. I got withing 350yds and waited until 11. Just when I was thinking he was going to bed, he fed out and I dumped him. 3 of us packed him out and as much camp as we could. We returned 2 days later to get the rest of our camp out. We worked hard for that deer, I got lucky, but I figure if you want to kill a big buck you need to hunt in areas where big bucks live. Drinking enough water helps too!