hunters orange question....

[JackOfAllTrades]

Nice... Rasbo... You Ain't Right.

Are you SERIOUS?  Think about what you just said.  How many guys do you think would wear anything but camo?  There are some really dumb and careless people out there.  I, for one, DO NOT WANT TO GET SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!

I hunted for YEARS as many others did with no friggin Orange or red on..  Don't hunt shoulder to shoulder with all the damn Seattle'ites, and you won't get shot. If I see another hunter, I'm usually going the direction away from him anyway. If given the opportunity, I would not wear orange. I would not wear a motorcycle helmet in many cases. I also want the CHOICE to not wear my seat belt. Too many damn liberals in this state creating laws (means of fund generation), To Protect Ourselves From Ourselves.

Yes, we're serious!

-Steve

[rasbo]

Nice... Rasbo... You Ain't Right.

Are you SERIOUS?  Think about what you just said.  How many guys do you think would wear anything but camo?  There are some really dumb and careless people out there.  I, for one, DO NOT WANT TO GET SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!

I hunted for YEARS as many others did with no friggin Orange or red on..  Don't hunt shoulder to shoulder with all the damn Seattle'ites, and you won't get shot. If I see another hunter, I'm usually going the direction away from him anyway. If given the opportunity, I would not wear orange. I would not wear a motorcycle helmet in many cases. I also want the CHOICE to not wear my seat belt. Too many damn liberals in this state creating laws (means of fund generation), To Protect Ourselves From Ourselves.

Yes, we're serious!

-Steve

I dont have a problem wearing it,but I still think it should be choice,Same with helmets,but a helmet probley saved me a while back.still we are grown up and should make our own decisions.My  op varies back and forth on that

[Curly]

I dont even like taking off my orange for when I go sit on a stump to...umm...relieve myself...

I quickly put some orange on while I do the duty.

I wear blaze orange underwear so that my white ass can't be mistaken for an elk but.

[Curly]

Nice... Rasbo... You Ain't Right.

Are you SERIOUS?  Think about what you just said.  How many guys do you think would wear anything but camo?  There are some really dumb and careless people out there.  I, for one, DO NOT WANT TO GET SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!

I hunted for YEARS as many others did with no friggin Orange or red on..  Don't hunt shoulder to shoulder with all the damn Seattle'ites, and you won't get shot. If I see another hunter, I'm usually going the direction away from him anyway. If given the opportunity, I would not wear orange. I would not wear a motorcycle helmet in many cases. I also want the CHOICE to not wear my seat belt. Too many damn liberals in this state creating laws (means of fund generation), To Protect Ourselves From Ourselves.

Yes, we're serious!

-Steve

I dont have a problem wearing it,but I still think it should be choice,Same with helmets,but a helmet probley saved me a while back.still we are grown up and should make our own decisions.My  op varies back and forth on that

I totally agree with you guys..........it should be a choice.

[bobcat]

Of course it should be the individual's choice. What kind of communist state is this to tell people what color clothing they have to wear? Like I said, what about pink? Or how about yellow? Why does everybody have to wear the same orange? For years, before the orange law, I always wore something green or brown that would blend in well. Back then I didn't have any camouflage. Never saw the need for it, but I also didn't see the need for orange.

[PWN Kurt]

A neat fact:  Hunter success is higher in areas and seasons where hunter orange is required.

I'm guessing because hunters spread out more when they can see each other, and subsequently pushes more deer around.

I like that it's required during elk and deer.  I like that it's not required for bear.  I like that it's not for turkey...but, I'm also glad my turkey vest has a a couple of orange strips that I can pull out.  It gives me an extra feeling of comfort when I'm done hunting for the day and heading back to the rig.

I believe that 'seclusion orange' count's inch for inch for your requirement if you still want a vest that breaks up your outline.

Be safe out there this weekend!

Kurt

[bobcat]

A neat fact:  Hunter success is higher in areas and seasons where hunter orange is required.

Where did you get that "fact" from    Orange is required in this state for all deer and elk "modern firearm" seasons and not for archery and muzzleloader deer and elk seasons. So all you are saying is that the rifle seasons have a higher success rate?  If so I'd say that's due more to the weapon type than the fact that people are wearing orange. That's ludicrous to think that orange actually improves success rates. It may not hurt success rates but I sure don't believe that wearing orange is a factor in higher success rates.

[Little Dave]

I recall the "success is higher in areas and seasons where hunter orange is required" as one of the statements from the master hunter course materials.  It seems plausible.

Not sure if the vest or orange jacket is bright enough?
After dark, go to a room with a dimmer switch and see how bright the orange is in dim light.  Regular orange fades to brown or gray in dim light, which is not ideal.

[backwoods_boy]

jeez backwoods boy that guy on the right sure isnt wearing much orange...   are you sure he has 400 square inches on? ....if he lifts his arms up he would disapear in the woods....I think that vest was made for a GSP...

Ha ha
he usually wears an orange hat too.
we were out cuttin firewood that day.
and his back pack has orange on it.
we are all good in our camp...
 Tongue

[GoldTip]

A neat fact:  Hunter success is higher in areas and seasons where hunter orange is required.

I'm guessing because hunters spread out more when they can see each other, and subsequently pushes more deer around.

I like that it's required during elk and deer.  I like that it's not required for bear.  I like that it's not for turkey...but, I'm also glad my turkey vest has a a couple of orange strips that I can pull out.  It gives me an extra feeling of comfort when I'm done hunting for the day and heading back to the rig.

I believe that 'seclusion orange' count's inch for inch for your requirement if you still want a vest that breaks up your outline.

Be safe out there this weekend!

Kurt

I would highly doubt that as a fact.  Pretty simple to check that fact, just look next door to Idaho.  No hunters orange requirement there.  Someone on this site truly trying to tell me that Washington has a higher success rate in general firearm deer and elk season than Idaho has? 

[sako223]

I have many opinions on this, Blaze orange is not as bad as many want it to be, choice or not. Most animals don't see in true color like we do so when you take a picture of your clothing including Blaze Orange in a hunting setting, then change the pic to sepia or black & white. It clearly shows the blaze orange is often a better color than some camo. We have had animals right in our laps while wearing Blaze Orange camo, even coyotes. Movement is the #1 giveaway.
Most of the time wearing orange turns hunters away from our spot. Poor hunters may not see you anyway.
I have not seen any studies on success with orange but it has never hurt our success on any hunt, and as I pointed out the color of camo orange is good blending for animal vision. So it may actually be part of our success.
Comparing our success rate while wearing orange to another state that doesn't probably is not accurate. So are you going to say Nobody has been shot while hunting in Idaho because they don't wear orange.
Initially when hunter orange requirements were implemented I drug my feet too and tried to get around it. Now I am a firm believer and actually count on it as part of my camo.
It is not worth the risk of getting shot or killed. It is amazing the number of people shot as mistaken game here in the state. I personally know several people involved or present in hunter shootings. As we get complacent & defiant many will never understand the reality of getting shot.

[GoldTip]

I have many opinions on this, Blaze orange is not as bad as many want it to be, choice or not. Most animals don't see in true color like we do so when you take a picture of your clothing including Blaze Orange in a hunting setting, then change the pic to sepia or black & white. It clearly shows the blaze orange is often a better color than some camo. We have had animals right in our laps while wearing Blaze Orange camo, even coyotes. Movement is the #1 giveaway.
Most of the time wearing orange turns hunters away from our spot. Poor hunters may not see you anyway.
I have not seen any studies on success with orange but it has never hurt our success on any hunt, and as I pointed out the color of camo orange is good blending for animal vision. So it may actually be part of our success.
Comparing our success rate while wearing orange to another state that doesn't probably is not accurate. So are you going to say Nobody has been shot while hunting in Idaho because they don't wear orange.
Initially when hunter orange requirements were implemented I drug my feet too and tried to get around it. Now I am a firm believer and actually count on it as part of my camo.
It is not worth the risk of getting shot or killed. It is amazing the number of people shot as mistaken game here in the state. I personally know several people involved or present in hunter shootings. As we get complacent & defiant many will never understand the reality of getting shot.

Nope, not debating people have been shot while hunting in Idaho and not wearing hunters orange.  I am not sure where I implied hunters orange did not lend itself to safety, although people get shot here WA while wearing hunters orange as well.  I quite simply and easliy debunked something that was stated as fact, which was hunting success is higher in area's which require hunters orange. 

[sako223]

So how will we know that hunter success in Idaho would not improve with orange since they do not require it. It seems that you need an area that changes requirements for a period of time. to make a comparison.

[GoldTip]

So how will we know that hunter success in Idaho would not improve with orange since they do not require it. It seems that you need an area that changes requirements for a period of time. to make a comparison.

The fact as stated was that "Hunter success is higher in area's and seasons where hunters orange is required."  The fact was not stated that hunters success rate went up following implementation of a hunters orange requirement. 

[PWN Kurt]

The statement about hunter orange and the correlation with higher success rate was something that was presented in the materials in Hunter Ed.  You are probably right to be skeptical and how that information was obtained.  I don't know if they did a 'double blind study' (no pun intended) as every state and region has very different terrain and cover, deer population and game management.  I do believe that the statement has some merit and is plausible.

In my experience, there has been many times where I was off the beaten track, miles from the roads and saw a glimmer of blaze orange in the distance.  When they saw me, they moved on.  If they didn't see me, I usually picked up and moved.  If there was a deer directly between me and another hunter, I would hope that we could both see each other!