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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2009, 02:34:22 PM »
the 17HMR is good for yotes out to about 200 yards (i no because ive shot one at that range with my 17) but if you wanna reach out further try .204 22-250 243 any of those are good long range coyote guns
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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2009, 02:41:34 PM »
Anything a 223 can do a 204 does it better  :P,  Check the ballistics a 204 actually runs really close to a 22-250
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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2009, 02:48:45 PM »
204 have teensie bullets, neener neener. :P
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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2009, 04:49:49 PM »
I usually shoot Coyotes with my .270, but am changing my tune after a run in with a Game Warden.  Didn't happen to me, but did to a hunting partner of mine.  I just happened to be hunting another area, when he got checked.

He had filled his deer tag and continued looking for coyotes, while others were hunting.  Gun in use was a 6mm.  Gave him a $271 ticket for hunting coyotes with too large of a weapon.  I had to go look to the regs  to see.  For those thinking it, he should have had a bear tag, well you are right, because he didn't have a bear tag.

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deer or elk seasons:
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firearm deer or elk season, with any firearm
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I am not chastising, but I did not know this and wanted to make those aware that hunt coyotes with .243's and larger.  Make sure that you have a valid deer or elk tag.


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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2009, 04:51:06 PM »
the 17HMR is good for yotes out to about 200 yards (i no because ive shot one at that range with my 17) but if you wanna reach out further try .204 22-250 243 any of those are good long range coyote guns

Thats terrible advice. One rediculously long lucky shot means nothing. 17hmr is a BAD choice for yotes at any range.

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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2009, 05:03:33 PM »
man you guys shooting yotes at 200 yards with 17 that is somthing special wait lucky is what i meant you must hunt were there is no wind 17 in 10 20 30 mile wind lol doin circles stick with the 223 22-250 do everything you are wanting and more lots of loads to choose from to
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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2009, 05:55:34 PM »
204 have teensie bullets, neener neener. :P
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Less wind drift at 4150 fps than a 223

 A 223 is so slow they have to use a calendar instead of a chronograph when trying to measure it's velocity   :P
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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2009, 06:42:34 PM »
call them in close use a 22mag... :drool: :drool: :drool:
« Last Edit: October 26, 2009, 08:18:31 PM by rasbo »

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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2009, 07:03:10 PM »
Anything a 223 can do a 204 does it better  :P,  Check the ballistics a 204 actually runs really close to a 22-250

What are you smoking man?  DO NOT compare a 204 to a 22-250!   :bdid:

I think a 22 mag would be your best choice for long range grey diggers (ground squirrels) and close in coyotes.

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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2009, 08:13:11 PM »
Anything a 223 can do a 204 does it better  :P,  Check the ballistics a 204 actually runs really close to a 22-250

What are you smoking man?  DO NOT compare a 204 to a 22-250!   :bdid:


I think you better look at some ballistics
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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2009, 08:26:26 PM »
Anything a 223 can do a 204 does it better  :P,  Check the ballistics a 204 actually runs really close to a 22-250

What are you smoking man?  DO NOT compare a 204 to a 22-250!   :bdid:


I think you better look at some ballistics

The 204 pushes a 32 grn bullet at about 4150 fps. The 22-250 pushes a 40 grn bullet at about 4150 fps. Ballistics don't lie!  ;)

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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2009, 08:52:58 PM »
In your statement

The 204 pushes a 32 grn bullet at about 4150 fps. The 22-250 pushes a 40 grn bullet at about 4150 fps. Ballistics don't lie!

What are you comparing? That a 22-250 can push a heavier bullet than a 204 at the same speed? If so you are not looking at the downrange drop,wind drift etc. 204 has a superior BC, downrange velocity and more energy when comparing the opitimal varmint bullets (what I consider optimal)of each caliber.
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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2009, 09:24:29 PM »
That's a convincing chart "IF" you could get a 204 up to the velocities you claim with a 40 grn bullet (4000 fps) probably closer to 3600-3700fps.

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Re: Long range varmint shooting
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2009, 09:38:28 PM »
Ok Here's 3900 fps which is fairly easily obtainable without running a hot load. Take it down to 3800 and it's about almost down to the 22-250. Granted 4000 fps is quite warm but doable. The hornady advertises 3900 fps which actually shoots 3917 fps out of my gun. In any case I guess we can agree to disagree. I've shot a 22-250 for over 25 years but I'm a 204 shooter now in case you haven't guessed  :chuckle:
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Re: Long range varmint shooting
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