we'll be lucky if we can hunt in the white river, except for Na forest of course, when the muck's buy the handcock properties. I've hunted that area for elk for many years, at least till it went permit only, it is a perfect area for deer and elk. If the damn muck's would help us manage this unit it would be better than any unit on the west side (besides the watershed). I personally know a local game warden and he has many, many horror stories of elk and deer being slaughtered and left because they fell dead 100 yards from the road. The vain in his forhead sticks out when you bring up the indian hunting topic, ma by some day we will get a Governor with some balls and change some laws in OUR state when it comes to indian harvest. Prob not in our lifetime. SSS