300 RUM

[mossback91]

Anybody have a rifle in this caliber? What do you think of it?
Looks like a good caliber to me just wondering what those of you who own or have shot one think of it.

I'm thinking about getting a Rem. Model 700 xcr in 300 rum.

[WDFW-SUX]

I had one it was a dog.

The Remington stock rifles are too light IMHO to handle the pressures and accuracy suffers.

Stick with a 300 win mag or 7mm rem mag or 300 weatherby in accumark.

I tried a ton of hand load combos in the gun as well as all the limited factory stuff available and the gun would not shoot. I consider minimum for a hunting rifle to be acceptable 1 2/2 inches at 100 yards and this gun did not offer that.

That's my experience others may differ. Don't be seduced by the ballistics.

[high country]

I have a 700 lss which is now sitting in a mc millan classic. it was a PITA from the factory. had a bunch of little issues that I worked out. now it is a 100% sub MOA gun. I sold my m70 classic with a christensen barrel in 300RUM. that gun was also a little finicky but once I figured it's diet out it was a dream to carry and hunt with, but at sub 7# it broke bedding and killed every single scope I ever put on it.....twas an expensive expierience.

I would own another, but in reality there is not a "need" for it. I killed 2 elk this year with my 6.5-06 and they died just as dead and just as fast. if you are looking for a gun to push big heavy SMK's aot to rediculous range this is a great case, but the twist rates in stock barrels are topped out around 200grs.

I managed to get 180 tsx's to shoot very well (.5-.7) in both guns with 110grs of AA8700, both guns came in close on velocity of 3350-3400 depending on the gun and temp.

I will not tell you what I did with a 165gr btsp sierra, but lets just say that it is hard to believe....and hell on coyotes.

all in all I would recommend a gun of at least 9lbs if you want to shoot it much, my 700 is about 8.25 all up with a zeiss 3.5-10x44 and it is not too bad, but I have broke a leupold mount at this weight. I would go heavier just to keep it reliable....nothing sucks more than a broken gun at the moment of truth.

back to my "need" statement. if you are looking for a hunting rifle, the rums are pretty tough on scopes. you will need to buy top quality glass and mounts. if you go with a winchester they have that lame .330 hole spacing in th rear and mounts can be tough to find. savage makes one for fair money but they are ugly IMO. if you are even remotely recoil shy I would back up to the 300win or wsm. 110 grs of powder is a hell of a lot worse then 70 and the velocity difference is good for about a foot at 500yds.....not that big of a deal since you gotta hold over or clicl up anyhow.

good luck

[dbllunger]

I have one and absolutely love it.  You can shoot it if you like.  Only killed one spike with it, but man is has some serious power.  Mine is a custom built on a 700 action with a HS Precision stock.  Shoots a 180gr at 3400fps or a 165 at 3600. (Chrono'd not guessed)

[mossback91]

hmm Maybe Ill just get a 300 win or a 7mm rem mag. I would like a 7mm-08 also haha. Soo many guns. The list goes on but mayeb Ill look into the 300 win. I dotn wanna be buyin new scopes all the time.  If i wanted a range gun thatd be different Id have a really high quality expensive scope but money needs to be spent on other stuff that goes along with the hunt. I have a 30-06 but for some reason I just dont feel at home with it. Have killed 1 deer and 1 elk with it but its just not my gun/caliber. I like the old 60's marlin 30-30 much better shot more naimals with it also. Just lookin for a good huntin gun. have also looked at the 280 rem and a .280 AI would be nice but I dont have the money to have one built(that is on my list to happen someday).

[dbllunger]

I don't know anything about ruining scopes, and have never heard that before this post.  Mine has a Lilja #5 26", and it weighs slightly more then stock with a Leupold 4.5x14.  I could easily weigh it if you like.  I only have about 5-6 hundred rounds with no brake.  Never had to re-adjust my zero other then when I changed loads.  Friend has one (Stock BDL) with about 3-4 hundred rounds with a 6.5x20 Leupold.  The last 100 rounds in his has been with a brake installed.  He did not like the recoil and he went from an 06 to the 300RUM.  Neither one of us have had any kind of scope or mount problem (both standard leupolds).
     Based on the guns you are talking about the RUM or even a WM is a substantial increase in recoil/power.  If you are just looking for a rifle then one of the standard calibers or mags would be great.  Ammo is a lot cheaper and easier to find.  I'm using different powder, but FPS is the same as High Country to recoil would also be the same.

[mossback91]

No worried about recoil or ammo I reload.

[mossback91]

My dad has a rem 700 in 7mm I do like that gun quite a bit pretty darn acccurate too.

[dbllunger]

You are covering a lot of things that have so many variables.  I will try my best here.  What is accurate for you?  Most factory rifles will easily shoot in the 2" or less range with factory ammo they like.  With reloads and a little gun tinkering you can make a stock gun shoot around 1" or so.  All centerfire rifles are easily capable of shooting 500yds, but how much bullet energy and size of trajectory arc needs to be factored in.  Do you want a flat shooting gun or are you able to know exactly how far to hold over?  I don't know what is required to be fun to shoot, but all guns are fun to shoot regardless of location.  7mm Remington is a great caliber that will kill anything in North America. 

[mossback91]

I don't know what is required to be fun to shoot, but all guns are fun to shoot regardless of location. 

Yes I agree. I just get confused onw hat to get for a new rifle and have soo many things I want ;)maybe winnnign the lotto is in order. I do think that a 7mm will be good for now and very capable of taking most big game at 500 yards with a 165 grain bullet retainign enough energy to kill elk fairly easily and drop deer. Should be a good caliber for longrange shooting at the range too.

[high country]

if you want a gun that kills like lightning and is as flat as is made look at the 257wby. 100gr tsx's at 3600-3800 are amazin on deer and elk. I have used mine to well over 400yds and had crazy results. and it is recoil friendly too, a vanguard can be had for a fair price and brass can be easily made from cheap 7rem mag brass.

75gr v-max's can go over 4g's pretty easily for song dogs too.....you can see mine in action soon.

[ICEMAN]

.300RUM. I have a this gun in a Rem. 700 CDL. I absolutely love this gun and will not give it up. I am no professional long range shooter, but I am getting a two inch group at 300 yards with this gun, across the hood of my truck. No sandbags, etc....  I have no complaints about the gun, I purchased the long action....

Love the gun. Would buy it again.

[257 Wby Mag]

+1 high country.

[Ironhead]

The 300 Rum is a great long range round. It has awesome down range energy and is a fairly flat shooter, also has a wide variety of factory loads if thats your thing. The Rem 700 XCR is a sweet out of the box rig.

[mossback91]

.300RUM. I have a this gun in a Rem. 700 CDL. I absolutely love this gun and will not give it up. I am no professional long range shooter, but I am getting a two inch group at 300 yards with this gun, across the hood of my truck. No sandbags, etc....  I have no complaints about the gun, I purchased the long action....

Love the gun. Would buy it again.

Thats pretty good accuracy at 300 yards across the hood of your truck.

[mossback91]

.25 caliber kind of seems weak for elk. I know that is going at a high velocity but Ive always kind of been after retaining energy.

[BlackTail]

I have 3 friends that shoot the 300 ultra mag and I can say that recoil is stiff.  Not terrible, but I wouldn't want to have to sight one in.  For the record, none of them have had any trouble with their scopes.

I have the Remington XCR in 7mm Ultra Mag and absolutely love this setup.  Gun is just about bullet proof, caliber is super flat shooting, kicks about like my 30-06, and when it connects with animals they go DOWN.  My gun shoots 1" at 100 yards all day long with factory ammo.  My only knock would be not many factory options for ammo but since you handload....problem solved.  Just about the perfect deer/elk killer, at long range if need be, if you ask me. 

[Ironhead]

Blacktail, check out this site.
http://www.cpcartridge.com/

[high country]

.25 caliber kind of seems weak for elk. I know that is going at a high velocity but Ive always kind of been after retaining energy.

I KNOW this much...you are not gonna recover a 100gr tsx at 314yds

[mossback91]

I do beleive that that .257 weatherby would be hell on deer though. Whatd o you think about a .25-06 as in how much does it reallly differ from the .257 weatherby/

[high country]

I do beleive that that .257 weatherby would be hell on deer though. Whatd o you think about a .25-06 as in how much does it reallly differ from the .257 weatherby/

I know two guys who shoot 25-06 exclusivly. between them I would bet my house they have killed over 40 elk and at least 15 moose....all with the good ol' 2-bit.

I have a 25-06 26" barrel that spits a 90gr pill at 3500fps. my 257ro spits a 100gr tsx at 3650fps. not much difference at all. the wby is just more of a good thing.

[BlackTail]

Ironhead,

Thanks for that link.  I've been looking at Conley Precision for a while now.  It actually is pretty spendy unless you order at least 5 boxes at one time.  Otherwise you have to pay a setup fee.  They do have a lot of rounds I would like to try.  I found 8 boxes of 160 gr Nosler Partitions, which they don't make anymore, for $29.00 a box at the local True Value.  Bought one box.  4 shots to get sighted in, then shots number 5, 6, and 7 were about 3/4 of an inch apart.  Went back to the store and bought the rest.  I've also shot some of the factory 150 scirrocos.  They shot really well too.  I bought a box of the 175 gr A-Frames but haven't had a chance to shoot those yet.  If Conley starts loading the new Barnes TTSX I might just have to give them a try!!!  Thanks again.

[mossback91]

The more I look into that .257 weatehrby the more I like it. Pics of a brand new one may be showing up on here may be showing up very soon. Coyote season is among us and that just gives me another excuse to get a new gun before elk season.

[257 Wby Mag]

Ahhhhhh, the 257 Roy...... It was the mans fav for a reason........

[Ironhead]

257 , Do you shoot that rig at Elk,  and did you kill that Oryx with it. Just curious as I know alot of guys that shoot one rifle and shoot it very well.

[mossback91]

I would be kind of scared to go after elk with that small of a bullet but thats just me  . I have seen an elk walk around after having two 175 grain bullets from a 7mm rem mag to the lungs at 200 yards walk around for a minute before keiling over. SHot one with a 180 grain bullet from a 30-06 which also moved aroung for awhile

[Ironhead]

Mossback, thats true but I have seen well placed arrows drop them in 15 yards. A light bullet doesn't leave much room for error but in the right hands they do all they need to.

[mossback91]

That is true I guess as long as the vitals are tore up they will die.