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[DeerHarvester]

Keep us updated on the score.

[bow4elk]

Strictly from a Record Book perspective, that mule deer looking tail will raise plenty of question with an official measurer, regardless of where it was killed.  I know if I was scoring that buck officially, I'd be seeking advice and guidance from the records office and consulting with the area biologist.  Yes, it looks like a big blacktail, but that tail says mule deer.  It's just not something you can overlook when it is plausible for a mule deer to be in that same area.

That being said, who cares about the record books for a moment.  It doesn't need to be entered, for that matter.  This is an incredible buck no matter the DNA and as someone already said, there isn't a person here who wouldn't tag this buck in a hunting situation based on whether or not it will make the books.  Anyone?

[bow4elk]

Also, note the white rump patch, consistent with mule deer markings.  Blacktails don't have a rump patch.

[Galpster]

WOW, Some of you just take things way to personal. I LOVE THIS DEER and would love to see it get submitted in the B&C.

Realx everyone, it is a GREAT BUCK and some of us do care what it scores!! I would submit it in a heartbeat. I do not see why anyone wouldn't. I would want to know if it was a BT or a MD and it doesn't matter one way or the other. It is a great buck.

Get it scored and let us know, we all are waqiting to see the score.

Thanks for listening and don't mind the negative posts on here, THEY ARE JUST JEALOUS!!!!!!

[Track-er]

What a monster!! Did you submit it for the B&C? If not why not?

 Have to wait 60 days for official scoring.

                      Thanks,Mike

[bow4elk]

Galpster, it's not about jealousy, and I think if you read the words of every post, that point is very clear.  Questions arose quickly based on physiological differences between mule deer and blacktails, specifically the tail.  If you cropped out that tail in photo and showed it to 10 measurers and asked them if it's a whitetail, mule deer, or blacktail, I'll bet a paycheck that 10 out of 10 will claim it is a mule deer - knowing nothing else.  So, it IS about the formalities of entering an animal into the Records Programs for B&C.  Those rear-end photos would raise red flags for EVERY official measurer.  It will simply need clarity before an official entry can be made.  That's all I'm saying.

Nothing about jealousy.  It's a great deer and everyone acknowledges that fact clearly.

[Galpster]

I see what u r saying. But what is needed to clarify? It was shot in a BT area and the antlers are BT like just huge. I would be curious to see what happened. MAybe thats all, I just would be curious to see what the ruling was.

I sure hope we find out!!!

GREAT BUCK AGAIN, I cannot say that enough!!

[huntnphool]

All that may be true but according to the boundaries its a blacktail. I'm quite sure loads of the book bucks could have gone either way. Unless they make the boundary obvious so as there would be no question whether or not a mule deer came over the PCT, say maybe I-5, then there will ALWAYS!!! be room for question when a blacktail of any size is entered. Track-er didn't make the rules he's only going by what the "experts" have layed out.

[bow4elk]

All that may be true but according to the boundaries its a blacktail. I'm quite sure loads of the book bucks could have gone either way. Unless they make the boundary obvious so as there would be no question whether or not a mule deer came over the PCT, say maybe I-5, then there will ALWAYS!!! be room for question when a blacktail of any size is entered. Track-er didn't make the rules he's only going by what the "experts" have layed out.

Completely agree - and I'm not stating the record book boundaries are good or bad - they are what they are.

[huntnphool]

And that post wasn't intended for bow4elk it was just a comment in general.

[Axle]

Dear Track-er

If the list isn't too long, please add me to the list of:
1. Jealous hunters
2. Camp cook
3. Wood cutter
4. Meat hauler
5. Guide (yes man, butt kisser, etc.)
6. Bedtime story teller
7. Camp dish washer
8. Camp jester

[Track-er]

Dear Track-er

If the list isn't too long, please add me to the list of:
1. Jealous hunters
2. Camp cook
3. Wood cutter
4. Meat hauler
5. Guide (yes man, butt kisser, etc.)
6. Bedtime story teller
7. Camp dish washer
8. Camp jester

so noted

[huntncoug]

Dont get me wrong that is an awesome Muley, pretty crazy you got it west of the PCT.  Have any of you guys looked at the Boone and Crockett website.  Deer are considered Blacktails if they are are

Washington — Beginning at the Washington-British Columbia border, the boundary line runs south along the west boundary of North Cascades National Park to the range line between R10E and R11E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to its intersection with the township line between T18N and T17N, which is then followed westward until it connects with the north border of Mt. Rainier National Park, then along the north, west and south park boundaries until it intersects with the range line between R9E and R10E, Willamette Meridian, which is then followed directly south to the Colum.bia River near Cook

It ends up being around Baring in that area.

[huntncoug]

It actually has nothing to do with I-5 or the PCT

[huntnphool]

Dear Track-er

If the list isn't too long, please add me to the list of:
1. Jealous hunters
2. Camp cook
3. Wood cutter
4. Meat hauler
5. Guide (yes man, butt kisser, etc.)
6. Bedtime story teller
7. Camp dish washer
8. Camp jester

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