stupid!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EastWaViking]

ok, I guess I hadn't really looked too close at the regs for late season this year.  I just noticed that there is a 6 day closed period between late rifle and late archery in 124!???  Do they realize those 6 days are the absolute best 6 days of the whole year... peak rut???  I tell you the department is messed up.  I hope someone from it frequents this site.  STOP RUINING EVERYTHING YOU MORONS!!!  Chopping a week out of early archery, and 6 days out of late?    NICE WORK PENCIL PUSHERS.

 

can you tell I'm not happy?

[carpsniperg2]

I tell you the department is messed up.

tell us something we don't know

look at the cougar mess up i am sticked i have a hound tag thats no good

[River]

Are the Inland Empire lands to the east worth pursuing (trespass fee?).  I understand the unit is largely private property otherwise.

[EastWaViking]

Paper land is pretty good, state land, not so much.  Yes, most is private and chopped into smaller acreage.


    There's a few more of those for good measure.   

[mulehunter]

ok, I guess I hadn't really looked too close at the regs for late season this year.  I just noticed that there is a 6 day closed period between late rifle and late archery in 124!???  Do they realize those 6 days are the absolute best 6 days of the whole year... peak rut???  I tell you the department is messed up.  I hope someone from it frequents this site.  STOP RUINING EVERYTHING YOU MORONS!!!  Chopping a week out of early archery, and 6 days out of late?    NICE WORK PENCIL PUSHERS.

 

can you tell I'm not happy?

Trust me... I was PISSED when I picked up Hunting season Book in May Ever since I knew it will Fk up all of us.

Now we gotta to do something to CONTROL THEM by not pay Tags next year!

Mulehunter 

[EastWaViking]

I always take that week off and still hunt hard every day.  Good thing I hadn't asked for it off yet.  Man, I'm bummed, that is my favorite week of hunting all year... which means it's my favorite week of the year period.   

[dbllunger]

uh...did you attend any meetings??? oh that was answered.  It was done exactly for the reason you said.  TOO MANY DEER WERE BEING KILLED DURING THAT TIME for a herd that has had it's butt kicked by mother nature.  It was a great decision and one of the more educated and responsible decisions a fairly stupid commission has made.

[huntnphool]

Do they realize those 6 days are the absolute best 6 days of the whole year... peak rut???

 You actually think its an accident? You should have figured out by now that its "pay to play", it will be a permit hunt soon, new revenue for 2010.

[EastWaViking]

uh...did you attend any meetings??? oh that was answered.  It was done exactly for the reason you said.  TOO MANY DEER WERE BEING KILLED DURING THAT TIME for a herd that has had it's butt kicked by mother nature.  It was a great decision and one of the more educated and responsible decisions a fairly stupid commission has made.

you have your opinion, I have mine.  I still think it's lousy.

[muleyguy]

"Do they realize those 6 days are the absolute best 6 days of the whole year... peak rut???  I tell you the department is messed up."

the department is not messed up..........it is actually one of their better decisions as one of the earlier posters said.   In the late 80's and early 90's you used to be able to hunt the Okanogan units up until the first week of November;  you used to be able to the Grayback unit until the 2nd week of November, all on general tags.........why not bring that back also?

Somebody has to step up and be the adult and take the candy away from the kids........

  this state has very few deer herds that can support general season November hunts, and that goes for archery seasons also.  So many rifle hunters have switched to archery seasons just so they can hunt in the rut it is ridiculus, many of these guys are "weekend warrior" archery guys and end up "sticking" 3 does and 2 bucks during their week of hunting and not recovering any of them.   And, before the archery guys get on my case, I realize there are some very dedicated archery folks out there who are diligent about the sport.  I am not talking about you;  but, the fact remains that hundreds if not thousands of deer are "stuck" during archery season and never found.  So, while harvest levels appear to be low, that is not really the full story.

This state has the biggest population base relative to its land mass of any of the Western states, and it is only getting worse.  Deer in this state are extremely vulnerable to November hunts, and it has to be managed very closely.

[fishunt247]

Very well handled muleguy. I agree fully...and I archery hunt. People seem proud to "stick" an animal and not find it. Late mule deer hunts are too long I think. 7 days would be better. Why late archery runs longer than early muzzeloader...not too sure.

[EastWaViking]

"And, before the archery guys get on my case, I realize there are some very dedicated archery folks out there who are diligent about the sport.  I am not talking about you;  but, the fact remains that hundreds if not thousands of deer are "stuck" during archery season and never found.  So, while harvest levels appear to be low, that is not really the full story.

And the funny thing is, the first couple days of every late archery season I find several dead partially eaten bucks that were wounded by rifle hunters and not recovered.  Every single season...several bucks.  I've never came across a dead buck with an arrow in him in Washington state.  BTW I'm one of the "dedicated archery folks"  and in my opinion there is a much higher percentage of rifle hunters who are weekend warriors.   

[WAPITIHUNTER]

I heard that they were using those 6 day slots to introduce wolves.

[EastWaViking]

uh...did you attend any meetings??? oh that was answered.  It was done exactly for the reason you said.  TOO MANY DEER WERE BEING KILLED DURING THAT TIME for a herd that has had it's butt kicked by mother nature.  It was a great decision and one of the more educated and responsible decisions a fairly stupid commission has made.

If that was the reason, they would have ended late rifle before Nov. 19 the last few days of rifle season is peak rut also.  So there goes your theory.

(peak rut in this area over the last 10 years or so had been Nov.17-23)

[luvtohnt]

There could also be other factors, for one I could see it being closed to allow increased fawn numbers. If they give the deer a week to successfully breed with no pressure it may impact the fawn numbers in a positive way.  

If that was the reason, they would have ended late rifle before Nov. 19 the last few days of rifle season is peak rut also.  So there goes your theory.

(peak rut in this area over the last 10 years or so had been Nov.17-23)

They have to allow for a certain number of days per user group, so in order for them to accomplish that they may have to run into the rut a little. They can't just cut  another two days off of the rifle season without rebelion from the rifle hunters. So the best they can do is move it around to try to avoid the rut. I know it makes you upset to loose some of the Best hunting time, I would be also, but in the the long run it will adversely affect the herd numbers.

Brandon