game department check point

[Skyvalhunter]

Problem is the State is pretty thin on Wildlife agents as it is. MH currently help at check stations. I wouldn't mind volunteering for the check stations as long as I was not out in the field hunting. The number of check stations has gone way down when it really should be increased.

[georgia redneck]

With all that said I applaud the members of our police forces and our Game Warden's and I do not envy there job at all. With all the idiots in the woods that they have to deal with who are carrying guns....it is a tough job and most do it with pride and integrity and again I applaud them. This guy was just and a@#hole who deserved to be treated as such. Just because they carry a badge does not give them the right to talk to or treat people in a manner with which this guy was treating my budy a member of the Fire Department for 15 years. He made a simple mistake and he knew the Regualtions the Gamy could have dealt with it differently but he did not,,,,,,,,a jerk is jerk no matter what you'r job title is.

[Axle]

Bear in mind that some of those gamies don't like giving out tickets. They would probably rather tell the guy to notch it correctly and then have a beer with the guy.

However, they have to answer for every action they do.

Now lets say for instance - the gamie is nice and warns you. Then you get on this forum and brag about officer bendmeover and how the officer could've given out a ticket but was nice enough to let you do it right after officer bendyouover gives you the opportunity.

Well.....then Monday morning comes around and officer bendthemover is chastised for not doing the correct thing as per the boss's demands and company policy. Then there is the backlash of not getting a raise or promosion etc. etc.

I have done things in my occupation that I did not like at all and it was against my moral judgment but it was company policy (whether written or unwritten policy, it does not matter). I know most if not all of us have had this happen and we did what we had to because of higher authority.

Just this year I helped a guy with a deer. Before I helped him, I asked if he notched his tag. He had not so I waited. He pulled it out and pulled off the flap in the hole where the string goes through for tying it on the deer. He really thought he was done. I then instructed him on what he had to do. Then I said - 'read the regs'.

[countywarrior]

With all that said I applaud the members of our police forces and our Game Warden's and I do not envy there job at all. With all the idiots in the woods that they have to deal with who are carrying guns....it is a tough job and most do it with pride and integrity and again I applaud them. This guy was just and a@#hole who deserved to be treated as such. Just because they carry a badge does not give them the right to talk to or treat people in a manner with which this guy was treating my budy a member of the Fire Department for 15 years. He made a simple mistake and he knew the Regualtions the Gamy could have dealt with it differently but he did not,,,,,,,,a jerk is jerk no matter what you'r job title is.

you know your a redneck if you break the law and than bitch about attitude........

[sako223]

I'm not up on the current citation guidelines for the WDFW. It was setup with two monetary fines for something like a tag notching offense. Intentional and unintentional,  with fines being about double for intentional.

[barneyfife]

Thank you "AXLE" for your "COMMON SENSE". I wish more sportsman used your mind-set. Issuing tickets is not a power trip. We assess a situation and have to read a crystal ball and decide which method of corrective action needs to take place. We deal with soooo many different walks of life. We make a choice between; verbal warning, written warning, citation/infraction, and/or refer to the prosecutor. We don't always get it RIGHT....oopppsss....must mean we're only human. I have always tried to treat people, the way I would want to be treated. DoI have bad days??? YEP!, I'd be a liar if I said I don't. The part I like about this topic.....you guys/gals are discussing it. That brings awareness to this situations. I read in alot of the messages....."My buddy made a mistake", "It was minor", etc.... The fact remains, we use our laws as guidelines and try our best to keep EVERYONE safe. I'm sure when you wake up early in the ,morning to go hunting, you plan on coming home at night, to your family......SO DO WE!!I have children and grandchildren, I want tohug them and tell them how much I love them,UNTIL I DIE FROM OLD AGE, not a bullet.

[Wenatcheejay]

I got stopped and checked by the Gamie this weekend. Total inspection of me, tags, rifles and vehicle, but as I was doing nothing wrong it was fine.

[georgia redneck]

With all that said I applaud the members of our police forces and our Game Warden's and I do not envy there job at all. With all the idiots in the woods that they have to deal with who are carrying guns....it is a tough job and most do it with pride and integrity and again I applaud them. This guy was just and a@#hole who deserved to be treated as such. Just because they carry a badge does not give them the right to talk to or treat people in a manner with which this guy was treating my budy a member of the Fire Department for 15 years. He made a simple mistake and he knew the Regualtions the Gamy could have dealt with it differently but he did not,,,,,,,,a jerk is jerk no matter what you'r job title is.

you know your a redneck if you break the law and than bitch about attitude........

I did not break the law there skippie and if you are going to push accusations and talk sh@# reserve it to when you can talk to someone face to face.

[Buckmark]

Dang, do i need the popcorn smiley...

[georgia redneck]

Bear in mind that some of those gamies don't like giving out tickets. They would probably rather tell the guy to notch it correctly and then have a beer with the guy.

However, they have to answer for every action they do.

Now lets say for instance - the gamie is nice and warns you. Then you get on this forum and brag about officer bendmeover and how the officer could've given out a ticket but was nice enough to let you do it right after officer bendyouover gives you the opportunity.

Well.....then Monday morning comes around and officer bendthemover is chastised for not doing the correct thing as per the boss's demands and company policy. Then there is the backlash of not getting a raise or promosion etc. etc.

I have done things in my occupation that I did not like at all and it was against my moral judgment but it was company policy (whether written or unwritten policy, it does not matter). I know most if not all of us have had this happen and we did what we had to because of higher authority.

Just this year I helped a guy with a deer. Before I helped him, I asked if he notched his tag. He had not so I waited. He pulled it out and pulled off the flap in the hole where the string goes through for tying it on the deer. He really thought he was done. I then instructed him on what he had to do. Then I said - 'read the regs'.

Cops give warnings out all the time are you saying they do not have the discretion to do the same, if so then I guess my opinion is unfounded but i would immagine they have the same discretion as police do if they deem it to be appropriate; without being chastized from supperiors.

[huntnphool]

They actually have more jurisdiction than the police.

[Big Guy]

Hey did anyone get caught up in the check point in ryderwood?
Sunday eve. I was leaving the hills and came across at least 10 Gamies all lined up in a row, it was crazy! I have hunted in this area for over 15 years and have seen a warden once.
I felt totally violated, it was like there was another purpose. Needless to say they treated us with no respect.

Nice first or second post, welcome.

Who care's how many post's he made. Does that really make a difference.

[georgia redneck]

They actually have more jurisdiction than the police.

My point exactly.

[Gutpile]

I've been throught firearm safety with both of my daughters and each time a gamy came in to give his little talk. The most common violation is not tagging or improperly tagging an animal. They strongly stress it. They can ticket you even if a little bit of the day/month is left. They gave several tags that were confiscated as examples and you wouldn't believe the crap people pull. Anyways I sure understand your frustration but that's the deal. You speed, you get a ticket. You improperly tag you get a ticket. I'd be pissed either way but not at the cop. I'd be pissed at myself. 

[Axle]

Cops give warnings out all the time are you saying they do not have the discretion to do the same

They do have discretion to 'write' or 'not write' a ticket in many situations like this.

if so then I guess my opinion is unfounded

You have a good opinion and one which I respect and like.

i would imagine they have the same discretion as police do if they deem it to be appropriate; without being chastized from supperiors.

Yes, I'm sure they do but remember, this is a tough economy and they have requirements from superiors. These requirements are getting tougher these days. If they don't do what is required and expected, then they get the axe and another fills his or her place.

I don't want you or your friends to get tickets for something trivial like this but the gamie has a job to do. If they don't do it the way they are expected, then they will be out and another will fill the place.

I think reading the regs is easy and necessary. I think the mistake is a missfortune for the hunter. I think we all go through tough situations like this.

I also think Barneyfife backs me up pretty well and I appreciate it. He is in a similar situation in his line of work. I sure wouldn't want to do it!