Lumenok

[COUG]

So is the lumenok illegal in Wa when hunting?  In looking at it, it seems like it is power by inertia not an "electronic" energy source.

Anyone have an answer on this one?

[PolarBear]

My understanding is that they are illegal.  They contain a tiny battery that is switched on by inertia.

[Gobble]

They are illegal in this state from what I know. Why I have no idea why? They don't give you a special ability to shoot better just a better idea where you might have hit (or not) hit an animal. This has been beat to death somewhere on here before.

[COUG]

Thanks guys, I searched "lumenok" and didnt get anything. 

[CoryTDF]

It's complete BS that they are illegal. It's a technicality in the wording of the regs. It talks about electronics on your bow or arrow that aid in the harvesting of game. Lumenok only helps with the recovery of game. If anything it may help less animals being killed because hunters will be more aware of where their shot hit and give a poor shot animal more time to die. This would help cut down on lost animals. They in no way aid in the actual hunting and harvesting of game. It should have been changed long ago.

[WhiskyRiver]

It's complete BS that they are illegal. It's a technicality in the wording of the regs. It talks about electronics on your bow or arrow that aid in the harvesting of game. Lumenok only helps with the recovery of game. If anything it may help less animals being killed because hunters will be more aware of where their shot hit and give a poor shot animal more time to die. This would help cut down on lost animals. They in no way aid in the actual hunting and harvesting of game. It should have been changed long ago.

That's ridiculous!! I had no idea they fell under the "illegal" category...hopefully someone who writes the regs pulls their head out of their you-know-what and changes the regs. I see nothing but benefit in using a Lumenok for not only recovery of the animal but recovery of the arrow itself! Who wants to loose an arrow in the woods?!? and worse yet, who wants to be the unlucky fellow or critter who mistakenly steps/sits/kneels on one?

[lokidog]

It's the same thing with a video camera mounted on your bow.  Both of these items simply help in the recovery of a hit animal not in getting the shot in the first place.  There should be a line item exception in the regs for these two items, we're not talking about lighted pins, lasers or rangefinders mounted to the bow. 

I would get luminoks in the blink of an eye if they were legal here.

Maybe we should start a petition to turn in to WDFW, like that would make a difference.....  Oh wait, suggest a $10 luminok liscense fee, they might go for that!   

[Grizzly95]

What would be the exact email to send it to in the wdfw?

[CoryTDF]

I use them in 3-d tournaments. They are really cool. Wish i could hunt with them.

[300MAGNUM]

I heard that they were illegal also.  I have tried Lumenoks in Michigan, but switched to Eastons because of consistency problems.

Easton illuminated nocks work off of a magnet and stay lit up to 90 hours.  You can activate them for hunting and deactivate them when you're done for the season.  As soon as they pass by the magnet they turn on until you pass them by the magnet again, or the batter runs out.  They stay lit for 10 seconds then start flashing.

I am all for changing the laws to help recover more deer!



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[LongTatLaw]

I know right...my wife did some homework on her own while i was in Iraq and bought me several toys...

things Ive never mentioned before...

things i would love to have...

she bought me luminocs and a bow cam (almost 400$)

so...I have great videos of my pig hunts this summer...and nada for a easy to film elk hunt...  the cougar would have just been a brown blurr and then a puddle by my leg

its just lazziness...  instead of putting some thought into what they outlaw and potentially having to adjust it in a few years with the advent of some new technology...they decided to just say...nothing electronic...and that rules out several items that have nothing to do with the intent of the law! nor were they considered when passing the law...

a concerted effort for a referendum style written petition might give some weight to the issue for future regulation changes but it would take hundreds not dozens...IMO

I dont think e-signing would work...no one knows or cares what longtat says...well..they dont care what david raines says either...but maybe someone on here...

[Tom Tamer]

It's the same thing with a video camera mounted on your bow.  Both of these items simply help in the recovery of a hit animal not in getting the shot in the first place.  There should be a line item exception in the regs for these two items, we're not talking about lighted pins, lasers or rangefinders mounted to the bow. 

I would get luminoks in the blink of an eye if they were legal here.

Maybe we should start a petition to turn in to WDFW, like that would make a difference.....  Oh wait, suggest a $10 luminok liscense fee, they might go for that!   

No a petition would not help too much, but if we bring it up at the game regulation meetings we can get it changed, that's how we got the muzzleloader bullet type changed and it's how we got the multi season tags....my two cents

[MIKEXRAY]

I know they are illegal & I don't use them. My question is do you think any gamie would write you a ticket for having them ? I don't think so because I think they have bigger fish to fry. Also how would anyone know ? I don't think you can tell when they are in the quiver. Don't picture the gamies whacking bows on the side to see if any lights come on . I would love to use them as You can see your shot placement much better & decide on the wait time to trail & you can find your arrow a lot better if a pass through. I also see the states side that if they allow one little rule breaker that they will be flooded with requests for lighted sights etc. Mike

[scoyoc5]

it would also make it easier to find a 15-20 $ arrow....I'm sure it's just plain easier to have a zero tolerance policy than to try to help out the hunters  . I don't see this state changing the rules. I also wonder why expandable broadheads are illegal

[h2ofowlr]

Asked last night at the bow shop.  They are illegal in this state, unfortunately.  So, is the camera technically if it mounted on your bow.  That's never any good.  These knocks would be especially good with these high speed bows now.  If it is overcast and unless you have super bright knocks and fletching it is very difficult to see your shot.