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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2009, 10:12:46 AM »
Should have had the LO claim the animal as there's.... just to slow everything down.
THE WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE SUCKS MORE THAN EVER..........

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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2009, 10:16:19 AM »
Unfortunately there are not enough wardens to be everywhere when we need them, they have too big of a territory to cover ...Thank our Gov. for that. The other thing is I have witnessed first hand that our wardens have to make a discion right in the field weather or not the case is worth the time and money to prosecute. I know it sounds retarded but I was told by Game officials that they get pressure from the judges in most cases that these people get off on little technicalities all the time and that the jury's feel sorry for most and they get off so don't clog their courts with cases that will just get thrown out, So if it is not a cut and dried case that will easily get prosecuted they will just ticket them for what they can! I know it sucks but again thank our Gov. I would follow up cause the guy was making a determination over the phone push to speak with the supervisor of that region and they can still pursue in this case. Good luck
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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2009, 10:27:36 AM »
Unfortunately there are not enough wardens to be everywhere when we need them, they have too big of a territory to cover ...Thank our Gov. for that. 

I know it sucks but again thank our Gov.

I know we would all like more WDFW officers around, but blaming our governor or government (not sure which you were referring to) doesn't make any sense.  The current economy is the reason for all the cut backs...  After all, wardens, officers, sheriffs, etc, etc all prefer to be paid with $$$, and if the state doesnn't have it, no one is going to work for free.

Back to the OP, have you contacted anyone else?  Keep up updated please!
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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2009, 10:47:47 AM »
Unfortunately there are not enough wardens to be everywhere when we need them, they have too big of a territory to cover ...Thank our Gov. for that. 

I know it sucks but again thank our Gov.

I know we would all like more WDFW officers around, but blaming our governor or government (not sure which you were referring to) doesn't make any sense.  The current economy is the reason for all the cut backs...  After all, wardens, officers, sheriffs, etc, etc all prefer to be paid with $$$, and if the state doesnn't have it, no one is going to work for free.

Back to the OP, have you contacted anyone else?  Keep up updated please!
When our state has to pay for a tunnel in Seattle to replace the viaduct, that money has to come from somewhere. Most likely diverted from education, law enforcement, and programs that the states is mandated to fund. Heaven forbid if Seattle has to figure out how to pay for this tunnel on their own!!

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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2009, 10:50:54 AM »
We can blame the Governor and Legislature!  Sure, the economy sucks but the cuts the the WDFW started years ago when we were in a financial boom.  We can blame them for increasing spending by over 33% instead of 20% which could have kept us solvent.  We can blame them for cutting funding to Law enforcement agencies (WFDW included) instead of cutting crap programs for illegals, gay and lesbians, freeway sound barriers, arts projects, "green technology", a big bore tunnel, beautification projects and general govt. waste.  The state would have plenty of money for law enforcement and schools if they would cut the pork and pet projects even in this economy.

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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2009, 11:15:02 AM »
Well said PolarBear
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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2009, 11:21:56 AM »


I know we would all like more WDFW officers around, but blaming our governor or government (not sure which you were referring to) doesn't make any sense.  The current economy is the reason for all the cut backs...  After all, wardens, officers, sheriffs, etc, etc all prefer to be paid with $$$, and if the state doesn't have it, no one is going to work for free.

Back to the OP, have you contacted anyone else?  Keep up updated please!
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We can blame our Governor and legislator's.  They have been cutting Fish and Wildlife for years, as well as diverting the funds they do have from enforcement, fish production and game management to non game species, wild fish enhancement. studies and research.  There are currently more Bio's working for F&W than Enforcement Officers.  Current cuts are going to Enforcement and Fish Hatchery's.  From what I have heard they are not cutting non-game, bio's etc.  I have heard so its hearsay but from a good source that a comment from our head of the F&W was "we don't want to be known as a bullet and hook department anymore."  I think that one little statement shows more the direction we are seeing.

My father is retired F&W and my brother is currently F&W.  I was the blacksheep and went into LE.  I remember my father cussing the direction of the F&W for the last 10 years.  Back in the day most of the persons working for them were Hunters and Fishermen, they have been slowly squeezed out and replaced with a "greener" staff that fits more in line with the ideologies of our last few governors.  I have been seriously thinking of getting out of LE when I hit 20 years and moving to a state that is more interested in keeping the word GAME in there management plans.

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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2009, 11:32:49 AM »
Well this thread got off-topic real fast.  My apologies to the OP for accidently starting a political debate - my fault.

To the other guys - I hear you and I'm not a fan of our governor either, but everyone has their own opinions.  That is all -  let's get this thread back on-topic.
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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2009, 11:34:36 AM »
IF he was hunting there illegally for a week, why werent the cops out there before hand? I am not defending him, just wondering.

If he's guilty, I hope he gets the full extent of punishment. Cant stand poachers.

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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2009, 12:16:38 PM »
All the wardens were down off Wildwood road in Boistfort if it was opening weekend. At least 10 anyway at a Check Point. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2009, 01:06:55 PM »
Was that up by EcoPark?  Totally unacceptable. >:(


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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2009, 01:19:43 PM »
Talk to a real warden...show pics.  SCREAM as loud as you can....Foward them this link to know we are pissed. 

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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2009, 04:20:26 PM »
Thanks for posting the pics.  Public humility is great for those stupid enough to do this crap. :twocents:

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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2009, 04:39:18 PM »
Well ... if the state is so broke, than maybe jerks like that should be where the money comes from!!! They should've sighted him for the max and then the the judge ease it at their discrection.
That's pathetic, shouldn't they know what time he shot by the 911 call?? I would seriously forward all your info to another Warden and see if they can help. I've never heard of being allowed to keep the animal.
There are a lot of families in need who would've loved to eat it, see another way to help budget cuts!!!

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Re: Breaking News....Fish & Game Dept MIA. When we need them !!!!!
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2009, 07:32:28 PM »
Isnt the WDFW buying up land at like double the cost?  Their number one priority should be more officers.  With the pictures, the police report, and your testimony they should be able to get these guys.

 


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