Shorter Archery Season Next Year ?????

[seansfire]

what part of archery season is during any part of the rut? it is my understanding that we miss the rut with both seasons. maybe i have been misinformed. i think the reason rifle guys are coming to archery is that a) the seasons are way longer , b) it is a challenge to get your animal. i say don't whine if you hunt rifle and your season aint' long enough for ya , pick up a bow.

[jdb]

what part of archery season is during any part of the rut? it is my understanding that we miss the rut with both seasons. maybe i have been misinformed.

you have. no offense. the early archery elk is a rut hunt and the late archery deer hunt is a rut hunt

[bowhuntin]

what part of archery season is during any part of the rut? it is my understanding that we miss the rut with both seasons. maybe i have been misinformed.

you have. no offense. the early archery elk is a rut hunt and the late archery deer hunt is a rut hunt

It is more a pre rut hunt. They are talking but it isn't in full swing. Same for the late archery deer hunt. There are opportunities in all user groups to hunt some part of the rut for both deer and elk.

[bobcat]

Well, the early archery elk is during the rut but the late archery deer, I would say that is after the rut. More of a "winter range" hunt I guess.

Archery hunters do have some great opportunities compared to those who hunt with rifle or muzzleloader. I agree with muleyman, archery seasons are sure to become even shorter in the future, with the increase in the number of people switching over to archery, there's no way around it.

[mossback91]

I think muzzleloaders get the best odds

[bobcat]

There are opportunities in all user groups to hunt some part of the rut for both deer and elk.

That's not true. At least not in general. Muzzleloader seasons are after the elk rut AND the late season is after the deer rut. Rifle seasons don't even come close to the rut, except for the late whitetail hunt in the NE.

[mossback91]

There are opportunities in all user groups to hunt some part of the rut for both deer and elk.

That's not true. At least not in general. Muzzleloader seasons are after the elk rut AND the late season is after the deer rut. Rifle seasons don't even come close to the rut, except for the late whitetail hunt in the NE.

Muzzleloader elk are still rutting during muzzy.........early season you get the bucks in dumb summer mode with very few other hunters around and you have the capability of shooting 200 yards!! which is just as far as most rifle hunters will shoot!

[bowhuntin]

There are opportunities in all user groups to hunt some part of the rut for both deer and elk.

That's not true. At least not in general. Muzzleloader seasons are after the elk rut AND the late season is after the deer rut. Rifle seasons don't even come close to the rut, except for the late whitetail hunt in the NE.

What do you call the rifle hunts this year from sept 21 - 25 then for elk? The elk are talking just as much as they are for muzzleloaders as they are for archers. The WDFW doesn't let anyone hunt the peak of the rut except for rifle. Yes, muzzleloaders do get the short end of the stick in the seasons IMO. It sucks but there is opportunity to hunt the season you want, but it may not be the weapon you want. If it is the season you are after find which weapon gets you what you want and hunt it.

[bobcat]

Muzzleloader elk are still rutting during muzzy.........early season you get the bucks in dumb summer mode with very few other hunters around and you have the capability of shooting 200 yards!! which is just as far as most rifle hunters will shoot!

Wow I wish I had known it was so easy. 

Have you ever hunted with or shot a muzzleloader?  I won't shoot past 100 yards. And as far as the elk rut, I've hunted muzzleloader season most years since about 1989, and I sure don't see much rutting activity. Most of the bulls are tired out from chasing and/or breeding cows and are hiding out by themselves somewhere away from the herds of cows. I've seen/heard bugling elk up to around October 2nd. Guess when muzzleloader season opened this year?  Yeah, October 3rd.

[alanger]

Yeah actually some do rut in rifle season the re-re's.

the cows that dont get bread in the first rut in september or in teh second or third round of the rut just floating around are still trying in modern season. saw a 6x6 mounting a cow during modern.

 

[bowhuntin]

Muzzleloader elk are still rutting during muzzy.........early season you get the bucks in dumb summer mode with very few other hunters around and you have the capability of shooting 200 yards!! which is just as far as most rifle hunters will shoot!

Wow I wish I had known it was so easy. 

Have you ever hunted with or shot a muzzleloader?  I won't shoot past 100 yards. And as far as the elk rut, I've hunted muzzleloader season most years since about 1989, and I sure don't see much rutting activity. Most of the bulls are tired out from chasing and/or breeding cows and are hiding out by themselves somewhere away from the herds of cows. I've seen/heard bugling elk up to around October 2nd. Guess when muzzleloader season opened this year?  Yeah, October 3rd.

If you think archery season is so much better for the rut, all you have to do is pick up a bow. You will find it isn't much better and you have even less of an effective kill range.

[mossback91]

Muzzleloader elk are still rutting during muzzy.........early season you get the bucks in dumb summer mode with very few other hunters around and you have the capability of shooting 200 yards!! which is just as far as most rifle hunters will shoot!

Wow I wish I had known it was so easy. 

Have you ever hunted with or shot a muzzleloader?  I won't shoot past 100 yards. And as far as the elk rut, I've hunted muzzleloader season most years since about 1989, and I sure don't see much rutting activity. Most of the bulls are tired out from chasing and/or breeding cows and are hiding out by themselves somewhere away from the herds of cows. I've seen/heard bugling elk up to around October 2nd. Guess when muzzleloader season opened this year?  Yeah, October 3rd.

Nope never even held one bobcat
Yes I have shot one........dont hunt with one.......
Im suprised you've never hunted elk in the rut since 1989.........My dad was an avid muzzleloader elk hunter all through the 80s and 90s  and Im pretty sure he was slammin in the rut!!
Most muzzy hunters use inlines these days....most with practice can take the 200 yard shot

[bobcat]

What do you call the rifle hunts this year from sept 21 - 25 then for elk? The elk are talking just as much as they are for muzzleloaders as they are for archers. The WDFW doesn't let anyone hunt the peak of the rut except for rifle.

I thought we were talking about general seasons   The new Sept 21-25 rifle bull elk permits, yeah those are during the peak of the rut, but there's only about 5 of them altogether, one in each unit. Archery hunters have the better season, better than rifle and better than muzzleloader. Why do you think their success rate is as good as or even higher than the rifle hunters?
They have two weeks in the middle of September. Prime time! AND, most of the units are open for early archery season.

I hunted the Toutle this year with my brother, he had a muzzleloader cow permit. I never heard a bugle. He heard a bugle ONCE. I'd bet if we had been there two weeks earlier during archery they would have been bugling lilke crazy.

Yes, I'll be switching to archery elk in 2010, or the year after. Depends on how soon I can save up the money to buy a good bow.

[bobcat]

Most muzzy hunters use inlines these days....most with practice can take the 200 yard shot

Inlines don't have any more range than traditional muzzleloaders.

[mossback91]

Maybe you just need a better spot for elk bobcat? cant find any? Maybe you dont hear them bugling cause there are none there?