AR for yotes

[oldschool]

 Whats agood AR for yotes for the money.Can I save any money by building my own?

[huntnphool]

Any AR that you are comfortable with will work, mine is a Bushmaster in .223, 20" barrel with a 1/10 twist

[Special T]

any AR is the holy grail of coyote rifles... they cost too much, but when the shooting starts.. all that's left is counting the pelts! The problem is what is your budget? You can make a really cool one for 6-700 bucks or buy one off the shelf for  a grand or more.... so unless your REALLY interested in making a gun u should probably just buy one.... I would prefer to use my money to hunt with my 06, than just go once with my new AR... Plus what good is a burly AR without some sweet glass? I always find myself needing at least 1500 to buy one and a scope... I think something about a wife and kid have prevented  that for me

[oldschool]

 Are there any brands that are crap?

[Special T]

No but, you can overpay

[satchel3006]

cmmginc.com has some bargin bin ar 15 for 600 bucks they got a 16" and an 18" version both flat top the only thing wrong with them is they might be scratched up might be worth a look. im shooting a dpms ap4 (16" carbine) that i really like

[Straight Shooter]

cmmginc.com has some bargin bin ar 15 for 600 bucks they got a 16" and an 18" version both flat top the only thing wrong with them is they might be scratched up might be worth a look. im shooting a dpms ap4 (16" carbine) that i really like

+1... the DPMS AP4 is a great tactical carbine and will shoot 1/2 moa with the right ammo (I've done it with 40 gr V-Max) scoped with one of my 4.5-14 mil dots.  I also have a DPMS Lo Pro (16" heavy barrel)... 1/4" groups with 40 and 50 gr V-Max.  DPMS makes quality ARs at a very reasonable price.

[thinkingman]

Are there any brands that are crap?

Yes...Hesse/Vulcan are true garbage.
There are different tiers of AR's.
This opens a can of worms.

[ADAMS]

"There are different tiers of AR's."

I've got a Bushmaster and a Noveske and as far as fit and finish goes, the Bushmaster actually looks a little nicer.

Would you eat a hamburger without milspec pickles?  That is the question. 

[littlebuf]

i love my Remington R-15. its already got everything done to start hunting and is wicked accurate. plus it looks really cool and that's important  not cheap tho

[Shootmoore]

I use my m4 for going through doors, for yotes I stick with my 700.

Shootmoore

[carpsniperg2]

just got another ar-15 today. they are the best for yote hunting. i am getting a r-25 in 7mm-08 very soon as well for the bigger critters that like my calls

[littlebuf]

heres my set up. i love it

[byrdman]

Are there any brands that are crap?

Not too many, if any are still made but stay away from any cast receivers. It's almost not even worth mentioning but I did see a cast Hesse at one of the last gun shows I was at. It looked pretty crude. I think Olympic arms used to make some cast receivers and got a bit of a tarnished reputation over the whole thing, but it seems as though Oly product is as good of quality as anything else. And on the plus side they are local.

On a bit of a side note, since I like to support local businesses here are a few - Manufactures: Mega Machine, Olympic arms and Aero Precision. Some good local retailers that specialize in AR's: Rainer Arms, Surplus Ammo & Arms, J&S gun parts and Carricoz armory.

Be forewarned, if not kept in check, this can turn into a sickness.

[Special T]

LB maybe if we get another "Stimulus Check" I'll have to invest in your setup! damn cool gear, but it cost more than   right?

[littlebuf]

LB maybe if we get another "Stimulus Check" I'll have to invest in your setup! damn cool gear, but it cost more than   right?

yeah its pretty sweet. after christmas is one of my favorite times of the year. i get a lot of yote hunting in. ive decided to take a brake leading up to christmas this year but after the holiday im going to hit it hard

[GEARHEAD]

I have an R-15, in .223. started hunting with an AR type gun for yotes many years ago, and had to turn away from it. i got a bolt gun and the yotes started falling bigtime. now with the years of experience i went to the R-15. the danger with a semi auto is that most people are thinking about their second or third shot, not the one that counts, which is of course the first. for me the change has been an advantage, i still have my first shot discipline, and am quick with follow ups.
My R15 is the most accurate rifle i have ever owned, about a half minute with hornady factory loads. i always used a .243 prior, and i can say that i wish i still was shooting that round. two out of three dogs i shoot now, require a follow up. if ya don't want to machine gun the thing, consider the R25 in .243 these rounds do cost money, so i'd only use the provided five round clip, lol. as for me, since mines a .223, i use the 20 or 30 rounder, Lol. the advantage of the .223 is the fun factor. best of luck.

[carpsniperg2]

that r-25 is a sweet gun for sure i am getting one some time soon. but in the 7mm-08 cal. and will do fine for the other bigger critters that come to the call as well. i always think about the first shot and make it count put faster recovery for one if you do miss and 2 if there are multiple yotes allot higher % of kills with the semi auto. i run about  25% on the 2nd yote part and my buddyy who shoots a bolt gun is about 5%lol

[MasterMisser]

im a big fan of the r-15 as well. it shoots sub 1/2 moa @ 100yrds with hand loads. i would rec it to anyone but as stated earlier. they are big bucks after you add a good optics
this is my setup

[KTMSMOKER]

A little of topic here, but I would like to try yote hunting.  As I understand it any call is ok and you can spotlight unless it is big game hunting time.
I wanted an AR style gun, but that is big money and like someone eles said kids and wifes come first.  My dad has ( and never shoots) a Ruger mini 30.  He has a scope and mounts.  Ammo is cheap (7.62 X 39) and it is a fun little gun.  My two questions are; is that caliber good enough for yotes, by  good I mean flat I guess, and is the mini 30 an accurate enough gun for 300 yards?  I guess I am going to barrow the gun, mount the scope and get her sighted in and give er hell.  But any info from yall would be gr8  

[Bofire]

Your Ruger mini 30 is a fine 100 yard coyote gun. 300 yards will require extreme holdover, about like a 30-30.
Carl

[KTMSMOKER]

Your Ruger mini 30 is a fine 100 yard coyote gun. 300 yards will require extreme holdover, about like a 30-30.
Carl

Is this cause the rifle or the caliber.  If I try it and get hooked I might concider a mini 14.  Unless the mini is a poor rifle for hunting.  I dont wanna blow the budget for a yote gun, but want an auto loader that can reach out.  Kinda thinking I am pointing myself to an AR.

[Shootmoore]

Some people may not agree but I have not found a mini 14 that will shoot accuratly out of the box.  For a semi auto with decent accuracy I would say go with an AR.  If price is a concern and you dont absolutly have to have a semi I would suggest a Savage model 12 in something like a 22-250.  Drop a aftermarket adjustable trigger on it and you will have a very nice accurate yote popper.

[Fishhog]

I love my my DPMS Varmit Special. 20" s/s barrel, Timney trigger topped with a Zeiss Conquest scope. Sub 1/2" groups @ 100yds

[coop2424]

I love my my DPMS Varmit Special. 20" s/s barrel, Timney trigger topped with a Zeiss Conquest scope. Sub 1/2" groups @ 100yds

I hope my DPMS Varmint that I just picked up shoots that well.  Once I get some glass on it we will find out.  What size scope did you put on yours?

[Straight Shooter]

I love my my DPMS Varmit Special. 20" s/s barrel, Timney trigger topped with a Zeiss Conquest scope. Sub 1/2" groups @ 100yds

I hope my DPMS Varmint that I just picked up shoots that well.  Once I get some glass on it we will find out.  What size scope did you put on yours?

My DPMS 16" varminter will shoot sub 1/2 MOA all-day with various V-Max loads... I'm sure that you won't be disappointed.

[CastleRocker]

I bought an R-15 when they came out.  It was my first AR, and shoots incredibly well.  I now have two R-15's, and two other uppers, one in 204 Ruger, and one in 25 WSSM.  I must say, I wanted an upper in 243 WSSM, and I actually found the exact one I wanted, but Rainshadow bought it before I could. However, now that I have the 25; I love it! 

The AR's have done more breeding and multiplying in my safe in the last year and a half, than all my other long guns combined.  Be careful when you buy one, it will become an addiction.

Good luck!

[Bofire]

If the Ruger rifle is accurate at 300 yards is one question, the cartridge is a weak 30-30, at 300 yards it has extreme drop. You have to be able to hit a 6 inch circle EVERY time, at the range you are hunting, in all positions.
Carl

[Gutpile]

If the Ruger rifle is accurate at 300 yards is one question, the cartridge is a weak 30-30, at 300 yards it has extreme drop. You have to be able to hit a 6 inch circle EVERY time, at the range you are hunting, in all positions.
Carl

I think you posted in the wrong thread?

[KTMSMOKER]

Naw he was talking to me.  The 7.62 X39 (mini 30) is balisticly similar to a 30-30.  Wonder if I could make some smokin hot loads for it.

[FALFire]

Naw he was talking to me.  The 7.62 X39 (mini 30) is balisticly similar to a 30-30.  Wonder if I could make some smokin hot loads for it.

   I would seriously advise against doing that. The bolts on the MIni's are weak and you will end up breaking it. About  the only way to fix it is to send it to Ruger and they will be very happy to charge a butt load of money to fix it. Then it will only break again. The design of the MIni does not allow for hot rodding of ammo, it's an all cast gun, that is why they are cheap to make. I would purchase 10 bolt guns before dumping money into a MIni.  Yes , I've had several, still have one left, never shoot it, don't want to.

Buy an AR and live happy.

You can modify an AR until your tongue turns blue and you will still never have all of the options.

[Shootmoore]

In my experience with mini's (14's not 30's) they are pretty bad in the accuracy department out of the box.  We had them in my old department (someone before me decided they would be a good idea cuz they didn't look evil).  Out of all of them we had 1 that was accurate out of the box.  It was a tack driver, however the others were dismal at best and some were like rolling dice on where the round would hit.  We finally got rid of them playing the liability card on round accountability and went with AR's.  Everyones Qual scores immediately shot through the roof.

Shootmoore

[Bofire]

I was just at the Oly site, it says that the 243wssm upper will go on an AR15.
Carl

[Bigbuckhunter_1996]

u could get the remington r-25 in .243 .308 win or 7mm-08 which u could use for deer elk coyotes pretty much anything        http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/centerfire-families/autoloading-model-r-25.aspx

[FALFire]

I was just at the Oly site, it says that the 243wssm upper will go on an AR15.
Carl

Yes they sure do, I have one and it functions awesome. I've killed 5 muley bucks and several coyotes with it. Feeds everything from 55gr to 100 grain bullets without any problems. 

[KTMSMOKER]

I have heard alot of abd stuff about the Oly guns?  The plinker I think?  I was interested in a cheap AR, but heard they were bad.

[Bofire]

You heard wrong KTM, they make a fine product. A lot of the other guys use Oly parts.
Carl

[KTMSMOKER]

So the plinker is an ok gun to buy if you wanna shoot yotes?

[FALFire]

So the plinker is an ok gun to buy if you wanna shoot yotes?

Yep, it's the baseline entry level AR and it will do just fine setup properly.

[Thefisherman83]

J&S has the Olympic Arms K3B-FT on sale right now for $690.  I was thinkin about picking up one next week and try my hand at yote hunting.  Any comments on that particular model?

[Bofire]

Would that be a K3B flat top?if so sounds cool and light. 16inh, collapsable stock, it has front sights? or a gas block?  $941.00 in the Oly book.
Let me know please fisherman, I might get one too!
Carl

[Shootmoore]

I have heard alot of abd stuff about the Oly guns?  The plinker I think?  I was interested in a cheap AR, but heard they were bad.

Oly arms had a couple bad years, but everything before and after has been A.O.K.  We bought a couple during that time that had bad headspace issues, they were fixed with no problem.  Of course have a couple bad years and word gets passed around that your the suck.

Speaking of which I have an old Oly that I was thinking about trying for yotes.  Problem is its a A2 upper with handle so any suggestions on scope mounting options.  The rest of the parts are all high end including a Hbar match grade 16 inch barrel.  It's a oldie but a goodie.

Shootmoore

[actionshooter]

Carl, It is the fl

Would that be a K3B flat top?if so sounds cool and light. 16inh, collapsable stock, it has front sights? or a gas block?  $941.00 in the Oly book.
Let me know please fisherman, I might get one too!
Carl

Thats the flat top model. Thats an awesome deal and those guys are good to deal with also. It would be worth putting a couple away just for an investment.
 I think you know where the store is right?

[Thefisherman83]

Would that be a K3B flat top?if so sounds cool and light. 16inh, collapsable stock, it has front sights? or a gas block?  $941.00 in the Oly book.
Let me know please fisherman, I might get one too!
Carl

Yes sir that is the one.  You can look it up on www.j&sgunparts.com.

[denali]

Rugers new 556 http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/sr556/index.html
or .308  http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn75-e.htm   32" barrel kel tec

you will pay a premium for either one, but you will not be buying a nother one soon.      

[Bofire]

I had a Doctor appt. in town so I stopped at JS. They have several of those. Thye look just fine. At 690 that is about 20.00 off. These are basic guns, but all the cool stuff will fit later. They are nice and light.
Not really my cup of tea, I gotta have the good trigger and stuff right off, and I do not like the sight tower sticking up cause I am using a scope anyway.
Carl