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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #120 on: November 02, 2010, 01:16:46 PM »
Bump, judgement day is today...................................

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #121 on: November 02, 2010, 01:18:29 PM »
I dont think it'll pass.  Hunting is huge in Montana.  Do you really think the guides will let this happen?  Too much money out of their pockets.
There are more hunters in Montana that want the guides off of the public lands.  There are more voting hunters than voting outfitters.  I think it will pass.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #122 on: November 02, 2010, 01:19:12 PM »
I was pondering the same thing last night - we will know the outcome later in the week.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #123 on: November 02, 2010, 01:34:28 PM »
Time to open up the wallet a little more, I think its going to pass as well, at least that is what the preliminary opinion polls show.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #124 on: November 02, 2010, 02:19:41 PM »
So will our odds of drawing a combo license go up......or down????

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #125 on: November 02, 2010, 02:22:16 PM »
So will our odds of drawing a combo license go up......or down????

They didn't even sell all of their combo tags this year.  You could buy them online directly.  Your odds should go up with more tags available and less people willing to shell out the extra cash.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #126 on: November 02, 2010, 02:24:48 PM »
500 dollars to hunt a deer? Rich man's sport.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #127 on: November 02, 2010, 02:31:22 PM »
500 dollars to hunt a deer? Rich man's sport.
I wish it were only 500 bucks.  Unfortunately gas almost equals that much. New clothes, toys etc. Food, it keeps going and going.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #128 on: November 02, 2010, 02:33:02 PM »
Gas only costed me 160 dollars round trip (east of Great Falls). I rarely buy new clothes or toys. The ones I have seem to stand up to abuse quite well. Now food costed me about 53 dollars for 4 days. This year...

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #129 on: November 02, 2010, 02:45:38 PM »
So will our odds of drawing a combo license go up......or down????

They didn't even sell all of their combo tags this year.  You could buy them online directly.  Your odds should go up with more tags available and less people willing to shell out the extra cash.

I'm hoping this is true.  Less people and better odds sound good to me and worth a little extra $$ in my opinion.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #130 on: November 02, 2010, 02:51:48 PM »
I just looked and there are still combo licenses to be bought on the Montana website.  Can't believe they haven't sold out yet.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #131 on: November 02, 2010, 02:54:38 PM »
I just looked and there are still combo licenses to be bought on the Montana website.  Can't believe they haven't sold out yet.

First time in a very long time that they did not sell out.  I wonder how this will work out when they raise the prices?  Probably like Idaho - actually revenue goes backwards.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #132 on: November 02, 2010, 02:57:18 PM »
Where are you guys seeing that they haven't sold all of their combo licenses? I can't find it.

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #133 on: November 02, 2010, 02:59:24 PM »
Click on the hunting tab when you go to the Montana website.  Then click on ALS search.  Then click on alternates list.  A PDF. file will be highlighted to click on which is the application to be sent in to them. 

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Re: Possible changes for Montana....
« Reply #134 on: November 02, 2010, 03:03:14 PM »
in the short run it will increase your draw odds is my guess;  and,  in the short run, it could also initially create more pressure on the public ground;  it will take a few years for outfitted land to move into the Block Management program, so you could actually have more general draw hunters competing for the same amount of available hunting ground.

It will take a few years for the hunting pressure to even back out over the public ground, Block Management, and private ground.

BUT, as time goes by, it will be a much better program;  one of the major flaws of the Block Management program is that it gets the "leftovers" of private ground;

with more funding for BM (which this provides) and the lack of guaranteed tags for the outfitters, over time, more private ground, will be able to enter the BM program, and it will be higher quality ground.

the outfitters got what was coming to them on this one, most of the outfitters/guides in MT are a complete joke.  

For the good outfitters, this will actually be a boon because you will get rid of all the 27 yr old punks from Billings, who lease 5 sections of private ground (which locks up 6000 acres of public ground), threatens any hunters who are on public ground legitimately, and has their buddy put together a $100 website, and drives their "clients" around in a 1991 suburban road hunting.

Without the guaranteed tag, these jokers will quickly fade, leaving more business for the legitimate guides.






 


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