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Cascade Blacktail
« on: December 10, 2009, 07:12:00 PM »
 RE - official debate thread for Cascade blacktail, so a hunters thread doesn't get jacked.

Exactly.  This Cascade region BT/MD debate is getting old.  That's a great deer.  Well done.

well this will get thread jacked pretty quick, i agree but it is a important distinction to make between the two. i hunt pure blacktails and the big buck i shot this year is no comparison to a big buck like hoggsniper's but when measured against other blacktails he's a hog. it all really matters very little how one deer stacks up to another but theres a difference between the species.


 Thanks for seeing the point as well. In other States, a Cascade blacktail doesn't necessarily imply a dividing line between species, it's merely a blacktail harvested in the Cascades. In Washington a Cascade blacktail is limited to a very distinct area on the west slopes of the Cascades in both the DFW and record book definitions. There is no comparison to a "bench leg", "bench buck" or whatever you want to call those cross breeds, anything outside of that boundary by definition in this State is not a Cascade blacktail.
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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2009, 07:31:46 PM »
might as well..... i think where guys really get there panties in a bunch is when i guy shoots what he knows is a benchleg or a mulie and then calls it a blacktail to make it sound super impressive when really its a decent mule deer. what really gets me is the "blacktails" in northern cali and southern Oregon that get put in the same category as what we hunt here on the west side. those things are mulies
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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2009, 07:35:46 PM »
cascade ,true,or benchleg. they are all great bucks the fact is some people just don't like being showed up by the last guy, and they will always try to find a reason to dispute the fact that it is a great buck. to all you that have shot all the above be proud of them and enjoy the moment. remember it doesn't matter what other people think. ITS ON YOUR Wall. :IBCOOL: 8) ;) :)and all that.

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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2009, 07:37:03 PM »
Well I can see that there's no changing your point of view on this subject but I know that the deer I shot this year was a big Blacktail.It was NOT a Muledeer no matter what the naysayers claim.


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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2009, 07:38:32 PM »
Well I can see that there's no changing your point of view on this subject but I know that the deer I shot this year was a big Blacktail.It was NOT a Muledeer no matter what the naysayers claim.


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who are you talking to? little paranoid huh?
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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2009, 07:42:18 PM »
Well I can see that there's no changing your point of view on this subject but I know that the deer I shot this year was a big Blacktail.It was NOT a Muledeer no matter what the naysayers claim.


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who are you talking to? little paranoid huh?

 Talking to you,I'm not paranoid just telling you my thoughts.
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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 07:45:08 PM »
i did not mention your name nor your deer. i was responding to the post "cascade blacktail" tell you the truth id forgoton about you all together
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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2009, 07:46:52 PM »
Don't matter to me.... I'll shoot them all....  :hunter:

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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 07:47:08 PM »
Well I can see that there's no changing your point of view on this subject but I know that the deer I shot this year was a big Blacktail.It was NOT a Muledeer no matter what the naysayers claim.


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Are you serious? Post up another pic, with your bucks ass like on BTC. As I said before, make sure you show that pic to the offical scorer too.
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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 07:48:24 PM »
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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 07:54:13 PM »
Million dollar question, is this a blacktail, benchleg, or muley? Another victim of the 240.... Laffin
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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2009, 07:56:58 PM »
that would be a mule deer
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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2009, 07:58:05 PM »
I think a line had to be drawn somewhere and people should recognize that a blacktail on the east slope has a very good chance of having mulie genes.   :dunno:  There is obviously a difference in the genetics depending on which side of the slope they are on and cannot be compared with each other fairly.  If a guy wants to suggest that his border line buck is pure blacktail then that is up to him but most guys will know there is a difference.

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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 07:58:49 PM »
I'd show any of the pictures to anybody who wants to look at them.When I take it to get scored I will tell the person who does the scoring where it was taken and let them make the determination on where to classify it.I was not and don't hunt for horns or book deer.I have been lucky with the couple of big deer I have taken in my life.I have shot a lot of spikes and two points and they all taste the same.Also my deer was taken in Snohomish County.



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Re: Cascade Blacktail
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 08:00:23 PM »
that would be a mule deer

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