that colockum bull that was taken

[phishisgroovin]

Heres that bull that was shot early in the morning on a sunday heading into the last week of our hunt.

Only heard one shot all day, stumbled across this after seeing a couple fellas hi-tail it out of the area i found this, no antlers hanging off their packs, they had to have buried the head somewhere.

All they took was the hind quarters, front upper legs and back straps, didnt gut it at all.
this was taken three days after it was shot. after coyotes and ravens picked at it.
one photo with my foot in it to show the size of the hoofs, this was NOT a spike. the hoofs are too large.

found three live rounds of 300 mag, wrapped em in cloth and a plastic bag for the game warden.
Told him where to find the carcass after he pulled us over to see the Elk shed in the jeep lol!

Never did find the head and antlers for this or a freshly dug hole, maybe they hung it in a tree. we never looked up now come to think of it.

[PolarBear]

 

[longrange7mm]

   was there a small cut behind the last long rib? when i mtn man sumpn in the field i dont gut either but i still get the tenderloins! thats bs. that they left so much meat. maybe they already took the head out. but i was told by a gamey that if he sees me packin the head out before the meat he can sight me.  

[phishisgroovin]

they left so much meat on this bull we got sick looking at it, it actually ruined our trip.
Just sucked bigtime to see a bull down, knowing there was a 5 point raghorn kicking it in the area not worried of the hunters at all, then we seen this on the last day of our week, headed back over the following wednesday and took this round of pics on thursday before the season closed.
this is up on the plateau off the Little carabou rd.

it was a really nice bull that was hanging around there, so we know the guys shot an illegal bull.
look at how large the hoofs are compared to my 10-1/2" shoe.

[phishisgroovin]

  was there a small cut behind the last long rib?

Actually no, these pics were taken after three days lying in the field and yotes & ravens picked at it.

[HornPorn]

I don't gut them eather, unless I can get them out hole. Looks like there is a cut behind the ribs. that's how I get the tenderloins too. they should have taken some rib meat and flank.

[phishisgroovin]

because the only people allowed to harvest elk in this manner at the colockum are tribals, NO tribes were hunting up there at this time.
We are required to haul the complete animal out as the Gamie Mike told us.

[mtndew]

We are required to haul the complete animal out as the Gamie Mike told us.
[/quote]The Regulations do not say that the complete animal needs to be hauled out, only that all the usable meat be taken. I would agree that there appears from the photos that there is still meat left on the carcass. But it also looks like over 90% of the meat was taken? Hard to tell exactly from the photos just how much meat was left.

[longrange7mm]

they should have took some rib meat. and they should defiantly take a field care skinning/ deboning class that is terrible work! it is rather gut wrenching when you come across a mess like this.  . if the bull was poached then karma will get there dumb a$$ and maybe they are a member and read this with all of us bashing them. and cursing there terrible butchering. As for being told you have to take the whole carcass that seems a little ridiculous. and i cannot find that any were in the rigs. You need to take all edible portions of meat!

[longrange7mm]

they should have took some rib meat. and they should defiantly take a field care skinning/ deboning class that is terrible work! it is rather gut wrenching when you come across a mess like this.  . if the bull was poached then karma will get there dumb a$$ and maybe they are a member and read this with all of us bashing them. and cursing there terrible butchering. As for being told you have to take the whole carcass that seems a little ridiculous. and i cannot find that any were in the rigs. You need to take all edible portions of meat!

and if your adventures take the intestines for sausage wrap and the brain for tanning!

[Michelle_Nelson]

I didn't read this whole thread so if this was alread said sorry.

Maybe one of the guys brought the head back to the truck when he went to bring the packboards down to get the meat.

[JackOfAllTrades]

but i was told by a gamey that if he sees me packin the head out before the meat he can sight me.

I'm packin out the head as proof that I've killed a legal bull or buck. I'll have 'some' meat with me -on the first trip. But certainly not all of the meat. I'll lock the head/rack up or hide it somewhere.

Any conservation officer that can't see through that process will see me in court when I stand there and tell the judge he's a moron.  -Of the officers I have met in the field, none fit that.

There does look to be some meat waste in that photo. That's an ethics issue. Not a legality.

-Steve

[gasman]

Don't get me wrong, i do nt condone with what they did, but at least they took meat. It could have been some one "Antler Hunting", and only take the head and leave the rest to rot.
You know what i am talking about 

[alanger]

I hate it, just sickens me when A-wholes do crap like this. 
 


Where at in the colockum was this?

[longrange7mm]

but i was told by a gamey that if he sees me packin the head out before the meat he can sight me.

I'm packin out the head as proof that I've killed a legal bull or buck. I'll have 'some' meat with me -on the first trip. But certainly not all of the meat. I'll lock the head/rack up or hide it somewhere.

Any conservation officer that can't see through that process will see me in court when I stand there and tell the judge he's a moron.  -Of the officers I have met in the field, none fit that.

There does look to be some meat waste in that photo. That's an ethics issue. Not a legality.

-Steve

i was just told that by a gamey. i half to agree with you 100% and there is no f-en way i would ever leave a head behind in the field. my statement was miss leading my apologize. i was trying to mean that a gamey is not always correct, they wear a badge but that doesn't make them right every time.  Just because the gamey told you to take the whole elk out doesnt mean you have to take the whole elk out!