Cougar release

[washelkhntr]

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/79362462.html


Just thought I would share.

[BENCHLEG]

it may be working now. but what happens in 2 years when the collar falls off and the cat returns and causes trouble. were they smart enough to put an ear tag in it. we will see.

[Axle]

The cougar that shut down the city's biggest city park last fall has settled in a new home territory.

City wimps! They are worse than moose!

The big cat captivated local residents' attention when it tried to make Discovery Park its home

No it didn't. It only made the news. It captivated your mind because you are limited in your ability to comprehend nature.

The 2˝-year-old male cougar was only the second in history to make its way into Discovery Park, which is why officials wanted to keep a close eye the animal

Wrong answer again McFly! Cougars have been here a lot longer than your white ass you idiot. Officials keep an eye on it because it is their job and the government-paid and government-trained idiots are 'told' to do so. It is what they get 'paid' to do idiot.

But from the moment the cougar ran into the Cascade Foothills above Monroe, watching him became a desk job. State Wildlife Biologist Rich Beausoleil gets updates on Discovery in his e-mail inbox.

Part of their job is to create a 100% desk job. You should know this because it is what you have you idiot.

Discovery is the first cougar in the state outfitted with a collar that sends daily cell phone signals plotting his location.

I don't buy this and it is a waste of the people's money.

He avoided all of those clear cuts, all of the towns of Duvall and Carnation, and ultimately North Bend. Decided to stay quite a ways from there," said Beausoleil of the signals received.

Oh my! He must be scared of humans now that he has seen them! We are all safe now! Yippie! We have a cat that is afraid to enter a clear-cut! I can sleep safe tonight!

Discovery went 67 miles in two weeks, crossing Snoqualmie Pass and finally settling in cougar country in Eastern Washington.

Cougar country indeed! The rest belongs to the settlers and their offspring. Why would a cat want to enter that area anyway? I seem to remember an elk that went 1100 miles after being collared too. Maybe they don't like being collared.

"He's doing exactly what a cougar should do," Beausoleil said. ""

And what is it that cougars do exactly (in your mind)?.

And it goes to show even though he came close to people, you can't paint cougars with a brush and call them a problem cat. He just wound up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Must have been his collar that made him go in the wrong direction! After all, cats do what the media wants them to do don't they? Oh ya, he didn't have a collar when he ventured into the 'wrong' area. So what is the 'wrong' place? And what is the 'wrong' time? I think you are 'wrong' for thinking the cat was 'wrong'. You are an idiot for being so stupid!

The tracking collar will rot away and fall off in about two years. When that happens, Beausoleil will stop getting daily e-mails from Discovery. And that will mean success

And Beausoleil will be the hero!! Yippie, you have saved the human race! You are one smart government-trained *censored*......or bitch. And if the collar doesn't fall off?.... well - it won't be mentioned on the evening news as a failure now will it?

The wildlife department closely watched a similar situation in Bismarck, North Dakota. When a cougar went into a populated area there, agents shot and killed it, sparking outrage among many residents who wanted it relocated.

I like the agents in North Dakota! They are my kind of people.

Here in Washington, most people praised the department for making an urban cougar wild again.

And here in Washington, we also have people like Christine Gregoire and her evil cohorts to save us from an honest vote count!

I'm sure I'm not the only one who can see this stupidity. Am I? Speak up now.

[washelkhntr]

Could not have said it better myself!

[saylean]

Maybe they'll post a link so we can keep tabs on it via the radio transmitter...

[shoot-em-dead]

As I read the artical- all kinds of thoughts came, then Axle went and wrote them down.

[JackOfAllTrades]

Part of their job is to create a 100% desk job. You should know this because it is what you have you idiot.

I've got a desk job and work for the state, does that make me an idiot?  I personally don't like many of your comments. You're calling the journalist an idiot.. OK.. Some of them are, but I don't see where this writer wrote anything contrary to the truth. You praise the North Dakota wildlife managers for killing a Cougar just because it came into contact with human population. Would you have done the same with this young Seattle kitty? As for the biologist that gets telemetry from the colar via his email, isn't that more efficient use of time and technology to make sure the relocation task worked? (relocation that puts that kitty back in a hunters sights) When they colar an animal and relocate it, they also take blood and tissue samples to make sure it's not diseased and to have DNA record. If that cat becomes a problem with people again, they'll know it's the same one. (once captured) You think that just because those biologists are college educated that they aren't as smart and witty as you?

I hope that if anyone is going to make comments like this about a piece of journalism, that you put a little bit of basis for your comments in your written word. Otherwise, it's means nothing.

This is a hunting forum. Comments about a dishonest vote count belong in different forums. I don't like her either, but there's other places to bitch about it..

-Steve

[luvtohnt]

 

[tmike]

Axle I know you think the cougars are eating all your elk in 454, but if you keep using words like Idiots and *censored*s in your generalizations you might start looking like one yourself.

[Axle]

I've got a desk job and work for the state, does that make me an idiot?  I personally don't like many of your comments. You're calling the journalist an idiot.. OK.. Some of them are, but I don't see where this writer wrote anything contrary to the truth. You praise the North Dakota wildlife managers for killing a Cougar just because it came into contact with human population. Would you have done the same with this young Seattle kitty? As for the biologist that gets telemetry from the colar via his email, isn't that more efficient use of time and technology to make sure the relocation task worked? (relocation that puts that kitty back in a hunters sights) When they colar an animal and relocate it, they also take blood and tissue samples to make sure it's not diseased and to have DNA record. If that cat becomes a problem with people again, they'll know it's the same one. (once captured) You think that just because those biologists are college educated that they aren't as smart and witty as you?

I hope that if anyone is going to make comments like this about a piece of journalism, that you put a little bit of basis for your comments in your written word. Otherwise, it's means nothing.

This is a hunting forum. Comments about a dishonest vote count belong in different forums. I don't like her either, but there's other places to bitch about it..

You have a desk job and that is fine. I will not comment on your job because I don't know you. You work for the government and that is great! We need more hunters working for our government.

I called the journalist an idiot for sure. That person didn't have to print such stupid stuff. I have dealt with journalists and most of it was not fun. Most of the info was changed. If you ever deal with any of them on a regular basis, you will find that they love to get the info wrong.

As for me, I would've left the Seattle kitty alone. It wandered there in search of new territory. This is what the city idiots voted for. I say let the idiots have what they voted for! If they don't want a cougar in their midst, then let it go for a vote to get rid of all the 'excess' cats. We shouldn't have to pay to get rid of them in an extremely expensive way like this. Our game department is wasting money on this 'game' of theirs. But I must say it does sound like fun.

As far as the collar, and tracking via signals, and finding it again, and possible future problems......sounds like fun but still - it should've gone to a hunter instead - or a family in need of meat. There are lots more out there in the woods. Tracking the cat makes for a good story and wastes money (as far as I'm concerned). I'm a bit more conservative when it comes to spending someone else's hard-earned money. That is one thing our government does not do. It has become a huge destructive beast that consumes without guilt.

I never came against 'college educated' people (be they bios or not) I don't know if I am smarter or wittier than them but when they do idiotic things (which is common) I don't mind calling it like it is. I have some college too but I'm not government trained or brainwashed. I speak against 'government trained' people who lack common sense and can't stand up for themselves. Many of them could not hold a job in the real world.

What I'm saying in my post is that there is no common sense in these actions and the article too lacks normal common sense. It is so easy to ridicule such garbage like that (and fun too!). And look how many people think it is normal with what was done to the cat!
In the past when a cat came in close to a community, it was hunted and killed and eaten. That is normal life. There are many more of them out there. Too many of them and that is why the deer and elk herds have dwindled so drastically in many areas. Perhaps the department has created job security by increasing predators among us. They will save the day when one gets into an area full of people who voted for them but don't want them around. Job security for sure!

I just lost 3 chickens to a raccoon. Should I call and get them to trap it and collar it and study it and track it etc. etc.? If not then why not? It is no different than the cat. It was a predator and ate something that belonged to me. It did worse than the Seattle kitty. I don't want it around here so what am I supposed to do? Can I use somebody else's money for a collar and tracking expenses? Can I use somebody else's money for all the expenses for this just cause?
Truth is, this is my problem and I have to deal with it. That is common sense. If I asked the department to do the same to the raccoon as they did with the cat, then I would be the idiot. Truth is, the cat did not even hurt anyone (yet) and they went out of their way to relocate it because the idiots that voted for it - all of a sudden realized they didn't want it around.

I look forward to ridiculing the next stupid story like that one too. It was fun  

[Axle]

Axle I know you think the cougars are eating all your elk in 454, but if you keep using words like Idiots and *censored*s in your generalizations you might start looking like one yourself.

You are right. I will try to control my rage. But you folks still know how I feel about it. Many of us think it but don't say it.

There was an article in a hunting magazine years ago by a guy who travelled and hunted for a living. He knew the laws but ran into many who were 'in control' and they didn't even know their own laws. One of his final statements was
"There are a lot of stupid people in this world and they all seem to be in charge"

He was quite frustrated as many of us are.

[cohoho]

I never came against 'college educated' people (be they bios or not) I don't know if I am smarter or wittier than them but when they do idiotic things (which is common) I don't mind calling it like it is. I have some college too but I'm not government trained or brainwashed. I speak against 'government trained' people who lack common sense and can't stand up for themselves. Many of them could not hold a job in the real world.

This is getting good Axle, are you sure your not Deaddog in disguise?  Come on now, your going to go out on a limb and make bold statements about Government employees and how they couldn't hold a job in the real world.  You got a great sense or knack for pissing off people really quick on this site, or is that the intent?  I have been a Gov employee for the past 27 years and can rest assured I have worked with some of the brightest people around, just like any other corporations rank and file....  Please explain to me the real world, or is this just the "World According to Axle". I'd really like you to share your fondness for the Gov, maybe we (Brainwashed employees) should start tracking and put you on the "Watch List" to ensure the security of the Gov and this great nation.. If you don't like it, Canada is hop skip and a jump, heck I go there alot, I'll even give you a lift......

[Axle]

This is getting good Axle, are you sure your not Deaddog in disguise?  Come on now, your going to go out on a limb and make bold statements about Government employees and how they couldn't hold a job in the real world.  You got a great sense or knack for pissing off people really quick on this site, or is that the intent?  I have been a Gov employee for the past 27 years and can rest assured I have worked with some of the brightest people around, just like any other corporations rank and file....  Please explain to me the real world, or is this just the "World According to Axle". I'd really like you to share your fondness for the Gov, maybe we (Brainwashed employees) should start tracking and put you on the "Watch List" to ensure the security of the Gov and this great nation.. If you don't like it, Canada is hop skip and a jump, heck I go there alot, I'll even give you a lift......

I don't know this deaddog you speak of. Does it stink by now?

And you are twisting my words too.

I make a comment on somebody who makes a stupid or lame decision and a few of you turn it around and say that I 'categorized' all of those in that line. I think you could read my post again and see that is not what I did. If it is not 'you' who made the decision, then 'you' are not who my comments were aimed at - so it might help if 'you' don't take offense. If you are hard working, then that is awesome. We need more of 'you' running our government and less people who make stupid or lame decisions. Not everyone makes a good decision and not everyone works hard.

We used to have a lame-ass mailman. All of us complained about him. He got the mail wrong on a daily basis. His actions were lazy and stupid and he didn't care. None of our complaints did anything because he 'couldn't get fired'. In the private sector, he would've been fired long before. It wasn't until he did the unthinkable and dumped the mail in the creek. That is the type of person's actions I can't stand.
Some people can do stupid things and get away with it for a long time. We have a government that is lying to us and cheating us in many ways. I don't much care for those actions. When those actions are to increase the cougar (and now wolf) numbers, I get a bit upset at that - as do many of you and I'm not the only one who speaks out about this.

Saying 'the real world' is a slam to somebody who is in a job who can't be fired no matter what they do (many of you have used it too). Perhaps this is wrong to say this. It should be said a different way - like - 'the private sector'.

We have a lot of great people who work for our government. I applaud them wholeheartedly! Especially if they hunt, or fish, or trap etc.

I am not the one who coined the phrase 'government trained'. I use it often though. It was coined to express wrong in certain teaching and those who follow the wrong teaching or training and end up living by it even though it is wrong. Teaching children that we came from apes instead of being created by God would be an example. Now we have a generation of youngsters who don't know where they came from. This leads them to do dumb things and believe dumb things and they have no value for another human. They then will apply it as a religion. It is that idea and action I am speaking against. They gave up their good judgement and common sense yet it is still available to them.

If you are not an idiot, then don't take offense to what I have said. If you are an idiot, well.......enough said.

btw, you started out with "This is getting good Axle". How am I doing so far? Should I keep going? I'm really trying to keep it short and sweet.
 

[cohoho]

Please do keep it going, I am enjoying it greatly.  This is almost as good any other conspiracy melodrama I have seen.  But please wait till this evening when I can enjoy it over dinner, I got to get back to work to ensure your freedoms are protected....

Seriously, what sector of the work world are you currently employed?  Not trying to cheap shot you - just curious.  Do you have belief of the camps for unloyal Americans, trains being built in Oregon to take folks there (outside of Fairbanks)? Do you belief that big brother is keeping tabs on you at this very moment?

[hunt4]

This is what the city idiots voted for. I say let the idiots have what they voted for!

exactly!

[Axle]

Before I get going again, I was curious - is cohoho a Christmas version of a coho?

Come on now, your going to go out on a limb and make bold statements about Government employees and how they couldn't hold a job in the real world.  You got a great sense or knack for pissing off people really quick on this site, or is that the intent?  I have been a Gov employee for the past 27 years and can rest assured I have worked with some of the brightest people around, just like any other corporations rank and file....  Please explain to me the real world, or is this just the "World According to Axle".

My comments were aimed at stupid decision making which is obviously done by stupid people. Everything about that cougar ordeal was handled wrong. I've stated it in the past and stand by my opinion about it. Perhaps the department has too much money to play with. Perhaps they are seen as having too much play money and the fine folks in Olympia will skim off some of their funds and put them into the general fund. After all, if they have that much money to play with, then they should share.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,40275.0.html
And btw cohoho, I have not seen you chime in to defend anyone in this thread yet.

Please do keep it going, I am enjoying it greatly.  This is almost as good any other conspiracy melodrama I have seen.  But please wait till this evening when I can enjoy it over dinner, I got to get back to work to ensure your freedoms are protected....

I don't see a conspiracy anywhere. I don't even see a theory. They took a cat from a natural setting; put a fancy and very expensive collar on it, and now they are the hero according to the press - who, by the way, can't seem to think for themselves.
Everything about that article irritates me. Every action taken in that situation was expensive and unnecessary. And guess who gets to pay for all that?

Seriously, what sector of the work world are you currently employed?  Not trying to cheap shot you - just curious.  Do you have belief of the camps for unloyal Americans, trains being built in Oregon to take folks there (outside of Fairbanks)? Do you belief that big brother is keeping tabs on you at this very moment?

I don't know about these trains but it looks like you want to qualify me or get a mental image of my background and current situation to see if you are better or smarter or more qualified than I am.

My work history is long. Most of my years I worked in body shops. Refinish, body and frame, and unibody repair and replace. Some mechanical. Estimator, Production manager.
I learned the refinish side of it at the age of 15. I've worked on ranches. I've worked in house remodel. I've been a trapper. Lived in 8 different states. Hunted many states. Worked in a slaughterhouse. Harvested more deer than I can remember. Also, lots of elk, moose, caribou, bear, etc. I've butchered more animals than I can remember.
Married over 24 years. Two grown children with one grandchild on the way.
25 years after finishing high school, got an AAS degree with a 4.0 GPA.
Went through 4 back surgeries due to too much hard work.
Part of the reason I am currently unemployed is because of some idiots in WA DC that are were corrupt and screwed up the economy. They had some help from corporate crooks too. Certainly can't blame it all on the government.
Is it OK if I call "them" idiots in this case?

And now I have a question for you cohoho.
You say you work for the government and have been for 27 years. I assume by one of your posts (in which you said you had to get back to work) that you work normal hours in a day. I looked up your posts from yesterday and noticed that you made 8 posts during normal working hours while working hard for us at the same time.
Those times being: 10:03:15 AM, 10:08:39 AM, 10:12:01 AM, 10:22:42 AM, 10:29:33 AM, 11:24:02 AM, 01:12:39 PM, 03:00:47 PM

Do you get a lot of break time sir? I've never had a job where I could read a nice forum like HuntWa and make posts - all while being paid. I've had jobs where I would be fired for doing this. I'm asking, not accusing. It was you who stated you had to get back to work. Perhaps the slow economy gives you more time for this. I'm not slamming you - just a bit curious since you work so hard for the U.S. and get paid by taxes from all of us.

Or is it that my rant was so interesting and entertaining that you are willing to risk getting repremanded so you could read and reply. I would certainly like to think so! Then again, it could be labeled a conspiracy if that isn't true. 

I think I managed to entertain myself on this one. 

[Dipsnort]

Um Axle, I think he meant to put more emphasis on the word melodrama than the word conspiracy.

[Galpster]

Now u done and did it.

Get em Axle

I agree with u 100%

 

[Special T]

Was there any info on the technology used in the tracking collar? Brand etc? i think its curious that they used this kind of tech. There are MANY places that have no cell coverage.  Maybe this was their first use of this kind of tech?

I think its funny when any of us slam another group for being "stupid" there is always some one who thinks you are talking to them... Funny, I have never felt that way, I must be arrogant! 

[wolfbait]

Now u done and did it.

Get em Axle

I agree with u 100%

 

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[Galpster]

U at work again cohoho? GET TO WORK and earn your pay!!

[alanger]

interesting thread!