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Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« on: December 20, 2009, 06:41:22 AM »
Who uses a smoke pole for turkeys? I have a CVA Gobbler side lock 12 ga. It's been fun to shoot turkeys with. Only problem is, you have to wait for the smoke to clear. :chuckle: I don't know if they make this one anymore, it's a Traditional gun and has a chrome lined barrow so I can shoot steel shot. Killed a goose once with it.

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2009, 08:16:52 AM »
I use a White Tominator for Turkey, have taken a few over the years with it. I use it for grouse along with a Crescent .410 SxS I have.

Some guy's say you can't take a double with one shot, just depends on how patient you are :)

Smoke em when ya see em!

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2009, 08:28:56 AM »
I've got a Knight TK2000 "smoker" that patterns better than my Mossberg 835 and Benelli 12 gauges (and they pattern great).  Plan to use it next year when I'm down to one tag to fill or in an area where I can only take one bird.  I've been a little reluctant to use it, because you can't see the tom flop through that smoke screen.  :chuckle:

After I'm successful there, I plan on trying my Matthews compound until successful .... then ditto my old recurve under the same circumstances.
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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2009, 10:14:51 PM »
I started with my 12 gauge CVA when I started turkey hunting in 2002. I have only shot two  birds with cartridge guns. My dads old 28 gauge and my grandads old LOn Tom. Both are gone and a special rememberance.

When using the muzzle loader try a wing bone call, adds to the traditional hunt.

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 05:52:36 AM »
First turkey I killed w/my muzzleloader shotgun, I used a wing bone call I made. I had 3 toms roosting above the house, every time I would set up on them, they would fly out and go to there hens gobbling the whole way. I never used my wing bone call before so I gave it a try this morning. I went in at 3:30 am to set a decoy in front of them, I was standing there trying to figure witch tree they were in in the dark. Not wanting to use a flash light because I was close. The train in the valley blew it's horn and shocked gobbled the toms. I was standing at the base of the tree they where in. :yike: Will I placed my decoy and moved down the ridge out if there site. I could see my decoy and they jumped on the flat above it, I could hear them gobble but no shot. The hens started in down the hill and the toms went to them, I said will it's over. I gave them every call in the book and no go. Then I remembered my wing bone call, never tried it before. They came right in, it was like the Pied Piper. :IBCOOL:

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 06:25:08 AM »
Cool story PA.  I think even I could get interested in turkey hunting using a smokepole.  That would be FUN!

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 06:10:47 PM »
I also use a TK2000. Won it at a NWTF banquet.  Harvested a few toms with it.  With mine I have yet to find the right load to make it pattern like I want.  Tried all different combos #4,#5,#6 and all sorts of powder charges.  25yds MAX!  Works great at 20yds though
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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2009, 06:36:06 PM »
just use the mossberg 835 3 1/2" with an extra full turkey choke  :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2009, 09:54:37 PM »
one day im going to buy the 12 gauge double barrel they sell at cabelas and use it for turkeys that gun looks like so much fun plus since it takes winchoke choke tubes and can shoot steel shot should be good for just about everything not to metion just flat out cool

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 12:53:08 PM »
I load my TK2000 (also won at an NWTF banquet) with 2-1/4 oz of #6 shot and 120 grains powder and it out patterns both my Mossberg 835 & Benelli at 40+ yards. Sure stinks when you get back in the truck and a bit harder to clean though. 
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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2009, 04:21:52 PM »
I don't use a shot cup, doesn't pattern will. I use 777 power, fiber wads, #4 shot and mag.#11 caps. Kill zone 40 yds no problem.
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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2009, 11:40:38 PM »
Would you describe your load of fiber wads.  I have had to use the plastic shot cups to get any kind of pattern, so far not much luck with fiber wads. My flint is cylinder bore.

Since I use the flint the most, I would like to get away from the plastic, but I want a a effective shooter also.

Almost all of my birds are under 20 yards, normal about 15 yards.

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2009, 04:53:42 AM »
I got a muzzle loading for shot gun book. Over the powder charge you use a hard paper disk, there about 3/16 th thick, (the book told me to use two over the power) But when I pulled the trigger it spun me around and killed my shoulder. :chuckle: so I use one. The fiber wad is lubed push in over hard disks add shot the the thin paper disk over that.
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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2009, 06:19:46 AM »
Thanks for the information and link.

Between the flint, my CVA side by side and the TC New Englander I should be able to to develop a useable load.

I may try the side by side on pheasants yet this season. If the weather turns bad I will leave them alone. Most of the land owners where I get to bird hunt would preferr I not hunt the birds in what is conceived as difficult conditions for the birds.

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2009, 03:51:29 PM »
Where's here?

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2010, 09:46:17 PM »
I mostly hunt northern Spokane or Eastern Stevens county, north of Spokane.

I have lost 7 hunting areas in the past couple of years due to older land owners deceasing and development.

I honestly do not know where I will hunt turkeys next spring with out having to drive some distance.

I am going to have to do a lot of scouting and talking to land owners. I need spots that I can get my wife into on the three wheeler.  Her leg is giving trouble.

The way the winter is going so far there should be little winter kill, but we have a lot of time to go.

I think I will give the TC some time in the field.  I am partial to the flint though.

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2010, 06:47:42 AM »
Cleaned the dust off the old smoke pole.  ;)


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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2010, 07:34:44 AM »
I have alot of respect for anyone using a smokepole for Turkeys.  That is dang cool and getting back to your roots.  If it happens, I'd love to see the stories and the pic opps would be awesome!

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2010, 08:20:16 AM »
I've shot to many to count w/my smoke pole. The one I remember the most was the first. A group of toms would roost above my house. It was a hog back and depending on where the hens roosted was the way they would go. The hens don't roost there, just toms. I've set up on this spot a lot of times. Shot a few but most go the other way. Will I was having one of those years where I thought I had them and off the other way they would go. So the next time they roosted there I went out 2 hrs before day light to set up at there tree with my decoys. It was dark and I knew I was close but didn't know witch tree they were in. I didn't want to shock gobble them because I was close and did not want to get busted. So I waited in the dark hoping for a gobble, but it was so early there would not gobble. Will I felt I should set up before it got daylight. About that time the train in the valley blew it's weasel, "gobble", "gobble". I about crapped my pants. They were right above me. I was standing at the base of there tree. :bdid: I set out my decoys and backed down the hill. To make a long story short, when they came out of the tree they went after there hens on the other side of the hog back. I used every call in the book, they would gobble every time but still moved the other way. I had a wing bone call I made but have never tried, so what the hell I gave it a try and low and behold they started to come. A redhead popped up and they I could see his beard, "big tom". KA-BOOM. Smoke everywhere. I couldn't see if I got him because he flipped back wards down the other side of the hill. I reloaded and ran over to see 3 toms betting the crap out of the flopping tom I had just shot. :IBCOOL: This was before you could shoot two in one day or I would have had another one. These toms I shot w/my smoke pole. The two together I got in one day the first year the game dept. allowed it. After hunting in the morning w/no luck I went to another spot. On the way there my caps went down my defrosted in my pick-up :bash: I had one cap that I took off and set in in my ask tray. Well with one cap I took a long shot a one of these toms, I hit him hard but didn't kill him. I ran to my truck and went home and got more caps. He wasn't far from where I left him, but did have to finish him off.

   

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2010, 02:44:51 PM »
I've laid a few low with a couple different BP's. I mostly shoot a 10g Pedersoli double I bought from Cabela's years ago. 1 1/2 oz shot, equal amount by volume of powder separated by three Wonder Wads, with one more Wonder Wad holdin'er all in place. Nothing like the sound of a floppin bird on the other side of that wall o' smoke :)

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2010, 03:24:09 PM »
very cool guys, i have shot a tk one time and it grouped great but i am not a huge huge fan of turkey hunting i do hunt them every year and do well but i could not spend the money on just a muzzle shotgun for thunder chickens as wadell would say :chuckle:
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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2010, 03:36:53 PM »
I have taken a few with my Smoke pole too. Here is one from a couple years ago 8)
Smoke em when ya see em!

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2010, 03:50:19 PM »
I want too bad, once I finally eat one I shot with my bow then I'll head toward the Smoke/pole. I've tried for 6 years to win one of those damn TK2000 at the banquetswith no luck....could've bought a couple of them by now. But I did pick up a T/C encore a couple years ago in Modern 12ga, so maybe I'll just pick up a BP 12ga barrel for it.

And thanks for the tip on the wingbone call that'll be cool. Right now my #1 arrow is while carbon it is fletched with the feathers from my first big tom. But I can't wait til I can " Smoke" a turkey ;)
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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2010, 11:31:45 AM »
When we take "Callie" out in early fall, I may be carrying my TK2000 ... I shot 120 grains with 2-1/4 oz of #6's .... it takes a couple minutes for the smoke to clear to see if you got one, but has proved highly accurate though ... the pattern is full !

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2014, 04:22:16 PM »
I was having some issues w/consistence patterns so I talked to Tim at Clarks in Colville and he said I needed to pack my powder and wads. I was just seating them, not bouncing the rod. He also said to cut the cushions off a shot cup and load my shot in a cup. Patterns real good w/ 1 1/4 oz #5's and 69 gr. of Triple 7. Volume for Volume. I haven't killed a turkey w/my smoke pole for several years now, so I'm going out opening day w/it. :tup:

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2014, 05:09:36 PM »
I used the TK 2000 teo years ago to get my washington slam with. Never had so much fun in my life. I was shooting a 2 1/2 ounce load through it and you couldnt miss, Shoots better than my 12 guage. All of you that havnt tried it, ought to. I noticed that the birds would almost jump the cap, like they do in archery when they jump the string. Got a couple coyotes while using it to, and it put em down quick.

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Re: Smoke Pole for Turkeys.
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2014, 08:59:19 PM »
used my trade gun on this fella at 30 yards    #6 shot

 


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