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Re: .308 vs...
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2009, 10:39:07 PM »
when you wound the enemy, it's a much bigger drain on their resources to care for the wounded than it is to just pile up the dead.

keep in mind that the '06 was designed back in the day when you had horses on the battlefield.  it was a big game cartridge from the beginning!
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Re: .308 vs...
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2009, 01:46:02 AM »


keep in mind that the '06 was designed back in the day when you had horses on the battlefield.  it was a big game cartridge from the beginning!

good point.
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Re: .308 vs...
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2009, 09:24:15 AM »
I put one round of 7.62 thru my new ss m77 mkII 308 and had to cycle the bolt 3-4 times pretty harshly to get the spent case out so that was enough for me to never do that again .  
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Re: .308 vs...
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2009, 12:27:42 PM »
I put one round of 7.62 thru my new ss m77 mkII 308 and had to cycle the bolt 3-4 times pretty harshly to get the spent case out so that was enough for to never do that again . 

That's good enough for me to not try it at all then.

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Re: .308 vs...
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2009, 12:47:09 PM »
I put one round of 7.62 thru my new ss m77 mkII 308 and had to cycle the bolt 3-4 times pretty harshly to get the spent case out so that was enough for to never do that again . 

That's good enough for me to not try it at all then.

ditto
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Re: .308 vs...
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2009, 10:39:23 PM »
well, they also want to put as many rounds down on the enemy as much as possible. So, thats ones reason.
They also wanted to brake down on the noise that the .06 makes(fired it many times, and is really loud). But it still has more stopping power then most sniper rounds these days(and it can match a .50 in range, seen it done).

And, just so you know, i'm telling you what i know, my opinoin, and from what my dad has told me(who is hoping to retire as a Lt. Col. in the next year). So, i do apologize if anyone knows differently, just telling you, what i know.
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Re: .308 vs...
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2009, 01:13:54 PM »
7.62 to 5.56 was mainly considered because of weight savings. The more weight a soldier can eliminate from the weapon the more rounds that soldier can carry and the fact more soldiers can put more rounds on target with a lighter faster round with less recoil.

You can find stories about how Soldiers of (pick any battle..the latest being Foluga) picking up the enemies weapon during a firefight "because of a lack in stopping power of the 5.56" Sorry but these stories are like fish stories and anyone who has had to rely on the weapon for survival to throw down there own weapon for some unknown shooter regardless of caliber is just plain ridicules.

Carry an M14 around for awhile with two hundred rounds of ammo

Here is a quote from wiki, Stoner believed and proved this to be true.

"Fighting between the ground and similarity groups reached a peak in the early 1960s, when test after test showed the .223 Remington round fired from the AR-15 allowed an 8-soldier unit to outgun an 11-soldier unit armed with M14s. U.S. troops were able to carry more 5.56x45mm NATO ammunition which would allow them a better advantage against a typical NVA unit armed with AK-47s. In 1964, the U.S. Army started replacing their M14s with the M16"
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Re: .308 vs...
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2009, 02:13:14 PM »
7.62 to 5.56 was mainly considered because of weight savings. The more weight a soldier can eliminate from the weapon the more rounds that soldier can carry and the fact more soldiers can put more rounds on target with a lighter faster round with less recoil.

You can find stories about how Soldiers of (pick any battle..the latest being Foluga) picking up the enemies weapon during a firefight "because of a lack in stopping power of the 5.56" Sorry but these stories are like fish stories and anyone who has had to rely on the weapon for survival to throw down there own weapon for some unknown shooter regardless of caliber is just plain ridicules.

Carry an M14 around for awhile with two hundred rounds of ammo

Here is a quote from wiki, Stoner believed and proved this to be true.

"Fighting between the ground and similarity groups reached a peak in the early 1960s, when test after test showed the .223 Remington round fired from the AR-15 allowed an 8-soldier unit to outgun an 11-soldier unit armed with M14s. U.S. troops were able to carry more 5.56x45mm NATO ammunition which would allow them a better advantage against a typical NVA unit armed with AK-47s. In 1964, the U.S. Army started replacing their M14s with the M16"

What does this have to do with the original question? I'm sorry not trying to be rude i just don't see the connection.

 


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