3 point or better units

[PolarBear]

Eliminate ALL November rut hunts for mule deer and whitetails.

[jackelope]

Eventually, they grow legs that are rumored to taste like chicken!

I can vouch for that.


6 pages.
4 to go.

buckle up...it's gonna be a 10 pager.

 

[NWBREW]

Eliminate ALL November rut hunts for mule deer and whitetails.

whitetails...

[Jerbear]

Banannaclip, please don't give the sheetheads any ideas.  I am disgusted with the 8 day season for modern rifle.  If you folks want to buy into it, then so be it.  But deep down, you all know it is a crock of s--t.  This dept is run by biologist's that don't have to produce one damn bit of data for the calls they make.  The season should be at least 15 days.  Time to set up and enjoy a Deer Camp.  Going to do one crowd eight days then all get eight days.  The muzzies, and the stick flingers, all eight days.  No late season for any group, being as the modern rifle aren't included in any of the areas around here.  I can hear the neck hairs bristle from here.  Yep.  Don't screw with my way of hunting, we have it pretty good.  But if you are honest, you have to agree that the group that has shouldered the load for a lot of years, are the ones that they keep taking away from. 
I was told by our Wildlife Area Manager that they are now starting to count the deer.  For the most part they are counted from the air.  Then the seasons are set on that count.  The deer are scattered all over, and for the most part in the brush.
But if they don't see them, then they  aren't there and set the season accordingly.  I have very little use for our dept of wildlife.   There plan is to divide and conquer, and that is what they are doing.  How about setting down with folks like us, and work on the problem.  Trouble is, they consider us the problem.
For those of us that are disabled and or elderly, are just about out of the game.  The three point minimum makes it really difficult.  I am considering just give it up and hunt birds on the Rez.  Don't have to give the F&WL clowns a dime.
Go ahead and yell at me.  I'm going to bed anyway.  So there.

[alecvg]

Banannaclip, please don't give the sheetheads any ideas.  I am disgusted with the 8 day season for modern rifle.  If you folks want to buy into it, then so be it.  But deep down, you all know it is a crock of s--t.  This dept is run by biologist's that don't have to produce one damn bit of data for the calls they make.  The season should be at least 15 days.  Time to set up and enjoy a Deer Camp.  Going to do one crowd eight days then all get eight days.  The muzzies, and the stick flingers, all eight days.  No late season for any group, being as the modern rifle aren't included in any of the areas around here.  I can hear the neck hairs bristle from here.  Yep.  Don't screw with my way of hunting, we have it pretty good.  But if you are honest, you have to agree that the group that has shouldered the load for a lot of years, are the ones that they keep taking away from. 
I was told by our Wildlife Area Manager that they are now starting to count the deer.  For the most part they are counted from the air.  Then the seasons are set on that count.  The deer are scattered all over, and for the most part in the brush.
But if they don't see them, then they  aren't there and set the season accordingly.  I have very little use for our dept of wildlife.   There plan is to divide and conquer, and that is what they are doing.  How about setting down with folks like us, and work on the problem.  Trouble is, they consider us the problem.
For those of us that are disabled and or elderly, are just about out of the game.  The three point minimum makes it really difficult.  I am considering just give it up and hunt birds on the Rez.  Don't have to give the F&WL clowns a dime.
Go ahead and yell at me.  I'm going to bed anyway.  So there.

I agree, I wish they would go back to the three weekend season.  I think 4 point or better would solve alot of problems with young deer being killed early on.  As much as it would be hard for me to pass on three points, not having shot many deer, I am for the 4 point or better.

[Rovingarcher]

Takes years to get the hunting camps set up the way we like them, then they screw with the seasons.I just saw Washington had added another 100,000 folks to the tax rolls this year.Things are going to get a whole lot worse and will never get better.We are getting to the point where only poachers and people with money will have venison...which one are you?

[andrew_12gauge]

just wanted to mention last i checked washington still has a 9 day season i know minor discrepancy but i see a lot of you talking about an 8 day season last i checked 2 full weekends and 5 weekdays adds up to 9

[alecvg]

just wanted to mention last i checked washington still has a 9 day season i know minor discrepancy but i see a lot of you talking about an 8 day season last i checked 2 full weekends and 5 weekdays adds up to 9

That is true, though I still wish it was 3 full weekends. 

[Jerbear]

My mistake.  It was a whole 9 days.  Still hard to swallow.  I remember 30 day regular seasons.  I know some one is going to jump in with the old, We have more hunters now..  Total bulls--t.  We have by far fewer numbers than we used to have.  We have Hogwire appointed tree hugging commissioners.  There should be no less then 15 days.  Period..  Again.  If we only get 9, then thats all everyone should get.  I will tell you that as a group, what we need to do.  Next spring when they have a meeting in a central location, get as many as we can and take it to them.  Be loud and make some demands.  Challenge their decisions, that we know are wrong.  Pick one out, and I will be there.  How about you.

[hunter guy]

just wanted to mention last i checked washington still has a 9 day season i know minor discrepancy but i see a lot of you talking about an 8 day season last i checked 2 full weekends and 5 weekdays adds up to 9

That is true, though I still wish it was 3 full weekends. 

In 2007 rifle hunters shot 23262 antlered game, archers got 2384 and the muzzleloaders got 1062.

[huntnphool]

I remember 30 day regular seasons.  I know some one is going to jump in with the old, We have more hunters now..  Total bulls--t.

Actually we have less hunters now.

[DOUBLELUNG]

I remember 30 day regular seasons.  I know some one is going to jump in with the old, We have more hunters now..  Total bulls--t.

Actually we have less hunters now.

Not to mention a ton less habitat.

[NWBREW]

 

In 2007 rifle hunters shot 23262 antlered game, archers got 2384 and the muzzleloaders got 1062.
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I would be curious to know what % rate of animals taken compared number of hunters in each catagory. I know more are taken by rifle hunters but does anyone know what the ratio is for each of the three seasons. Just curious.

[huntnphool]

Are talking success percentage?

[Jerbear]

Less habitat?  How about less habitat available for the hunters.  How about all the state land that is shut down to us.  That is our land.  There is a lot of habitat.  We just don't have access to it.
 But then again our game dept has a better attitude toward winter die off, than harvest by hunters.  The winter of 96-97 killed off thousands of deer.  Hundreds of elk died for lack of food in their elk sanctuary by Mt. St. Helens.  We have more does here in Klickitat county than could be supported in an adverse winter.  But that is the way the Olympia idiots operate.
We can argue all we want.  But here is a cold hard fact.  Right now we have one Wildlife Enforcement Officer.  We have several biologists in this area.  Three to take care of the Oregon Spotted Frog, and the Western Pond Turtle.  WE will let a herd of elk starve to death.  We collect the turtle eggs.  Take them to the Portland zoo where they are hatched.  Then when it is deemed that they can take care of them selves, we bring them back to their place of birth.
We need to go to some meetings, as a large group and get some answers.