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Offline arintime

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E-collar or tracking collar?
« on: December 25, 2009, 07:34:49 PM »
My Christmas gift this year was a garmin astro dog tracking system. My question is which collar, e-collar or tracking collar, would be better out in the field? I have been talking about getting an e-collar for training my 5 month pudelpointer puppy and I will still but, should I keep the tracking collar or exchange it? Does anybody use a tracking collar or have an opinion to help me with this choice?

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2009, 07:46:37 PM »
Be careful asking for an opinion here,'cause we all have one :chuckle:  Mine would be that the tracking collar would be useful for hound hunters, but if you need one for you pudlepointer your doing something different than the rest of us.  Get a training collar, and learn how to use it properly.  I use tritronics, because they're made in the good 'ol USA, but they are basically all the same. 
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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 07:57:48 PM »
Be careful asking for an opinion here,'cause we all have one :chuckle:  Mine would be that the tracking collar would be useful for hound hunters, but if you need one for you pudlepointer your doing something different than the rest of us.  Get a training collar, and learn how to use it properly.  I use tritronics, because they're made in the good 'ol USA, but they are basically all the same. 

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2009, 08:46:16 PM »
That is my gut feeling and the more I think about it, the gps would not work so well while grousing in the mountains. I don't think my puppy is going to be a long ranging dog so the ability to locate her should not be too big of an issue. On the up side, e-collars are cheaper than this tracking unit so that means more gear! I will sleep on it.

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2009, 10:31:40 PM »
They are two different tools for different purposes. I don't think it is an either or situation, but what tool do you need.

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2009, 12:11:34 AM »
They are two different tools for different purposes. I don't think it is an either or situation, but what tool do you need.

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I prefer not to use a colar on my dogs if I can avoid it.  However sometimes I find it necessary for some of the most stubborn ones.  If you do get one learn how to use it properly, I have seen a lot of dogs with potential become ruined by improper use.

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2009, 12:03:48 PM »
if you want to know where the dog is... just by an electronic collar with an with a beeper... or put a bell on the dogs collar...  we use the GPS collar in TX with out pig dogs...  i just couldn't see paying that much for a gps collar that i won't need to use with my shorthairs....  one of my dogs will range upward of 5-600 yards depending on terrain and i can always here the bell on his collar... well unless the wind is kicking

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2009, 05:45:01 PM »
I think the astro is a sweet set up. Yea it's another collar on your dog, but if you have a big runner they will not only tell you where your dog is, but where its been. How many miles traveled, elevation gained and lossed. All useful information in my mind.
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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2009, 06:46:09 PM »
truth to that

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2009, 08:53:44 PM »
I think the astro is a sweet set up. Yea it's another collar on your dog, but if you have a big runner they will not only tell you where your dog is, but where its been. How many miles traveled, elevation gained and lossed. All useful information in my mind.
I really don't think my pup will be a big runner but this sort of information I do think would be useful. That is for the most part my dilemma. I carry a gps whenever I hunt/hike/fish because I like to know those things. Being able to find my dog if we got separated is a big plus and that is why my wife bought it for my x-mas present. I am still pondering what to do.

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2009, 09:20:53 PM »
i can't figure what you'd need a gps tracking collar on a bird dog for. a hound dog running bears or lions yeah...but a pointing dog?

i'd exchange it and get an e-collar.

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2009, 09:26:59 PM »
i can't figure what you'd need a gps tracking collar on a bird dog for. a hound dog running bears or lions yeah...but a pointing dog?

i'd exchange it and get an e-collar.

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2009, 05:38:28 AM »
I think you are making the right decision for your  poodlepointer.

i can't figure what you'd need a gps tracking collar on a bird dog for. a hound dog running bears or lions yeah...but a pointing dog?

i'd exchange it and get an e-collar.

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If you have ever had a dog lock up in a section of standing corn or sunflower you would understand the need of an astro. Some dogs will not pull off a point.
Alot of chukar dogs will range 2 draws away(600 to 800 yards or more) its alot easier to look at a reciever than guess what canyon he is on point in.

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2009, 07:23:17 AM »
just get one of those flags they have to put on 4 wheelers in the sand dunes  :chuckle:  alot cheaper!  I agree one of my shorthairs will not pull off of point even if i was dragging him......... that situation sucks when you have your limit... but it's good practice and exposure to birds for him...  good luck i honestly wish i had one to log the miles travelled by my mutts...  but i don't have the cash to lay down on something i don't absolutey need....  i just run an electronic collar and a bell

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Re: E-collar or tracking collar?
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2010, 11:00:57 PM »
Just an update, I went and exchanged the tracking collar and got a tri-tronics sport upland g3 w/ a beeper. I have been reading up on it for a few days and finally started to put it on my puppy. I am not actively using it yet, just getting my puppy used to wearing it. My wife and I had concerns with it and I told her I would test it out on my arm before I activated the "shock". On the lowest setting, I felt a little tingle and she said she wanted to know what it felt like so, I "shocked" her with it on the same setting. She immediately put it to the back of her neck (which was sore/knotted up) and told me to shock her some more to loosen it up! What The Hell??? I didn't (but I probably should have) and now both of us feel better about using the training collar and I will start in a couple weeks. She wanted me to test it out on the puppy tonight and I said no. Thanks for the input everyone!

 


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