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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2009, 07:49:32 PM »
Can't claim 1000 yard gun until you have a 1000 yard taget (thats been used). :chuckle:

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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2009, 08:01:58 PM »
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i'm gonna guess that killbilly's caliber of choice ends in  "shooting times western(STW)"

I am a total fan of the 358 Shooting Times Alaskan. -Not for a 1000yd gun, but I'm sure something in 7mm STW would do fine at those ranges.

Then if I supported that, Killbillie and I would be advocates of the dredded belted cartridges that so many of the more recent WSM fans love to hate so much.

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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2009, 08:14:19 PM »
lets see i have 300 ultra mag i got at sportsmans warehouse in oregon 2 yrs. ago. i wanted a tack driver so i had a gun smith i know put a pacnor barrel on mine. bedded it to the factory stock.stuck with the new x mark adjustable trigger as he said it was a good trigger turned it down to 3 lbs. put a sako extractor on it. put a tactical bolt knob on the gun. had it gun coated black. put a vx3 leupold 4.5 x14x50 on it. put a custom muzzle brake on the barrel as well. when i bought the gun it was a stainless sps model 700. ive only shot it at 100 yds and it was shooting a 1 inch group the gunsmith said he expects at least a 1/2 inch group out of it. i was a little gun shy at first as i have never shot anything bigger than a 7mm mag. but this gun is at least almost a 3000.00 gun with all the work he did. thought about upgradeing the stock but it wont make it shoot any better it will just lighten up a little.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2009, 08:20:48 PM »
i'm gonna guess that killbilly's caliber of choice ends in

"shooting times western(STW)"

nope! .308 win, got ya. While in the Army I shot the M-14 out 1K yards with iron sights and the M-16 out to 1k m with the same. My eyes not being as good as when I was 20, I still feel OK with 500+ with good optics my choice is still .308 or 30-06. I here the .338 Lapua is the cats meow well past 1K yards in the hands of a trained GI to pick off any ground dwelling critters two or four legs.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2009, 08:32:25 PM »
338 Edge,Rum, Lapua in that order shootin a 300 grain SMK, then the 300 Berger when it arrives....
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2009, 08:36:16 PM »
Does the 2g's include optics, if so good luck, if not, it is doable.

Caliber cartridge does not count in cost. But I would say a 338 or 6.5x47.
Action - Remington 700 or Savage. Buy it used for $400 on the high side. Dump the stock, barrel and trigger.
For this I will use the 6.5x47 in the prices. It is the top contender for the 1,000 yard matches, recently beating out the .308.

Figure $500 for gunsmithing fees if you cannot do it yourself.

Rem 700
Barrel - Shilen will run you $250-300.
Stock - McMillan A4 $575
Trigger - Jard $125, Jewel $225
Any other small parts, scope mounts, bottom metal, ect figure another $200 or so.
If you want the action trued $130 or so.
Total $1,700 parts only.

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Barrel - Douglas $300
Stock - SSS $300, McMillan $575
Trigger - SSS $300 installed, includes truing and timing the action. Rifle Basix $170
Any other small parts $200
Truing the action - $125
Total, $1,500 with the SSS trigger.

For both rifles you can figure in possible gunsmith fees and any other custom items you want.

If you can find these parts used you can knock off 25%.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2009, 08:43:07 PM »
Start with a 10/22 with bull barrel
Then have flames added to the stock and you got a 1000yrd gun :chuckle:
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2009, 09:50:59 PM »
338 Edge,Rum, Lapua in that order shootin a 300 grain SMK, then the 300 Berger when it arrives....

Yep!  Even though any rifle that will print a legitimate 1/2 moa or better will be capable of shooting a good group at 1000yds.  If this rifle is to be used for hunting purposes, it should have enough "power" to make a clean kill at that range. 

There are a lot of good cartridges for a 1000yd paper puncher, not so many for an actual 1000yd hunting rifle.

Mr. Shawn Carlock will be building mine in 338 Edge.  (Unfortunately, the scope alone is going to cost me more than the 2k mentioned). 
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2009, 09:59:42 PM »
I'd like to have Carlock build me a Edge, but the old lady would nut me!! grin....

I'll have to do mine in steps. Pick up a SPS RUM, part it out, order the stock, have R-Bros put it together for me, in phases. Little easier to get it by the commander that way.....
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2009, 10:02:18 PM »
It is possble with glass.  Here is mine.
Benchmark Barrel in 300 win mag 24" stainless with braek
Saco Extractor
Action blueprinted and squared
Bolt Lugs Lapped
timney trigger 1.5#'s
Bedded in Bell and Carlson Stock
Harris Bipod
Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x50
Burris Extreme Tactical Rings and picatiny rail mount

All under $2000 and best group  on paper was a 5 shot .3" at 300 yards.  :IBCOOL:
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2009, 10:06:41 PM »
That'll work Rob. How do ya like that scope? I've got a 3200, rain guard is good *censored*!! Wish others would catch on...
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2009, 10:13:48 PM »
If I'm not going to pack it much then
Remm 700 ss action
28" ss #4 Pacnor in 300 RUM
McMillun A-5 in snipper fill
Badger rail & rings
Leupold VX-3, 6.5X20X50 w/M-1's
I'd have Pacnor true the action and chamber/install the barrel

I'f its a rifle that I'll be carrying a lot then
Rem 700 ss action
24" ss #2 Pacnor in 7mm Rem. Mag.
McMillun Classic stock/ standard fill
Talley LW one piece ring/bases
Leupold VX-3, 4.5X14X40 w/M-1's
Again the work done by Pacnor
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2009, 10:19:33 PM »
Just got mine back last summer and spent quite a bit of time at the range developing a load. Finally got it dialed in at about 1/2 MOA. If you really want to see what a gun will do, shoot 10-15- rounds at 100 yards. Anyway, I did alot of research before deciding. I ran all the ballistics on ALL the .30 calibers, and ALL the 7mm,s. I came up with the 7mm having more energy then any of them from about 400 yard on.(Except the 338-378 with the 300 grn smk's) It all has to do with B.C. My gun ended up costing just over 2 g's add a Schmidt and bender with the Holland reticle, 2 more grand, comp dies and numerous bullets and powders, pushing 400.00. I ended up building a 7mm Dakota, shooting the 168 Berger's. So yes it is possible to build a GUN for 2000.00. No scope. I don't know how much long range experience you have but I pretty much shot all summer and only felt confident out to 600 yards, but by next year we should be hitting 1000, if I don't shoot out my barrel first.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2009, 10:59:25 PM »
got a little more than the 2k in it, but it'll drill milk jugs at 1130 yards all day long!
169.5 grain Wildcat HP ULD
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2009, 05:13:02 AM »
  Castlerocker.....I agree with you 100%. I have shot 1,000 yard  competitive matches at Ft. Lewis on range KD-22. I used a Springfield Armory M1A with iron sights. 42 clicks on the rear sight to get the round on paper. I was going to mention the same thing you did. Are you going to punch paper or are going to hunt and KILL an animal at that range. It is my experience that at 1,000 yards a 7.62 or .308 is losing alot of steam by the time it reaches the target. I have seen oblong holes in the paper because the bullet has slowed down enough to start to tumble or topple and hits the target sideways.  I also know that when you shoot a 30.06 at that range...in order for you to hit the target. The arc of a 30.06 at it's highest point is approx. 50ft. A 30.06 does better at that range because of higher velocity. Even then, I am not sure if a 30.06 has enough punch to kill an animal at that range.  Before he passed away last year, my 19 year hunting buddy used a 300 Win mag. Alot of poop behind that round. I don't know the ballistics behind that round, but I used to kid him that there were no Elephants in this state. I shot his gun ONCE and it was way to much kick for me. I do not need a gun that big. My Winchester model 70 short action 26" heavy barrel in .308 downs Bambi just fine. I have shot 3 to 4 inch groups at 200 yards
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