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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2009, 11:49:03 AM »
What about the guns those guys on Best of the West are shooting?  Gunwerks I think is what they are. And I believe they focus more on the scope and the ammo than the rifle. Anyway they label them as 1000 yard hunting rifles.

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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2009, 12:09:16 PM »
Nothing cool to add.  Just want to watch this thread...
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2009, 05:12:49 PM »
When I was in the process of building mine I talked with Aaron ay Best Of the West a few times. Most of there shooting is done with a 7mm rem mag  and a 280. They do build a couple of different guns also.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2009, 05:32:08 PM »
Can't claim 1000 yard gun until you have a 1000 yard Target (that's been used). :chuckle:

And therein lies the issue. What you guys should be doing is building a 1000 yard Range  so we can shoot our 1000 yd. guns and show you the targets. It is a fact that many members here are shooting 1000 yard capable rifles today but don't have a place to shoot and test their loads.

So ActionShooter and JackofallTrades can buy the property and we'll all help build the range and we can call it Steves Place.... :chuckle: :chuckle:

 I'd love to build a range. Guaranteed, If I ever won the big one, I would build a range.   :chuckle:

 Wasn't trying to bust anyones balls. I've seen a hundred guys claim to have a 1000yd gun, but maybe 5 of them have actually shot over 700.  :dunno:  Theres a lot more to it that the gun and scope.
 I can take my 30-30 and call it a 1000 yard gun cause I can hit a 12'x12' square, but is it a true 1000yd gun, I think not.  ;)
 
 I would like some input from guys who actually do this on a regular basis. Whats everyone consider a good group at 1000? Is MOA to a 1000 good enough?  Whats the best scope set up, turrets or custom reticles (mildots)?  
 I see some guys recomending factory(out of the box) rifles without any or minimal work done to them, Just slap a big scope on it.  I don't see it. :P
  I have a Rem Sendero in .300WM with a VX3 4.5-14 on it. As it is, its a pretty good shooter. I in no way consider it a contender for a true 1000yd rig (yet). Just trying to maintain good groups at 500yd (consistently) can be very humbling.  :chuckle:
  Just my opinion though
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2009, 05:35:01 PM »
there's a guy on here....
longrange7mm i think....who hunts with the best of the west guys...maybe he should chime in here.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2009, 05:53:46 PM »
the gunwerks guns are good guns, but boy are they exspensive!  We have a place to shoot that we can get 1200 yards down to 300 pretty easy, so we shoot there a few times a year for the LR stuff.  We shoot either milk jugs or I made a 1000 yard gong.  It's basically a 1/2 steel plate that hangs from a frame.  There is way more to shooting that far than just the rifle, but the rifle is a big part obviously.  Once you get your rifle (whatever caliber etc.) dialed in and you can shoot it well, then start expanding your distances.  IMHO, shooting over 1k for fun, then 2 MOA is great, but if you plan on shooting an animal, then you better be able to CONSISTENTLY hit MOA or better.  Keep in mind that MOA at 1k is 10.47 inches, so you can see that it wouldn't be hard to miss a deer/elk or make a poor shot and wound an animal.  That being said I don't think it's an ethical shot.  There are too many external factors for me to shoot an animal that far.  But for target shooting, it's a ton of fun to shoot 1K+ and most rifles are capable of shooting that far fairly well.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2009, 06:04:11 PM »
the gunwerks guns are good guns, but boy are they exspensive!  We have a place to shoot that we can get 1200 yards down to 300 pretty easy, so we shoot there a few times a year for the LR stuff.  We shoot either milk jugs or I made a 1000 yard gong.  It's basically a 1/2 steel plate that hangs from a frame.  There is way more to shooting that far than just the rifle, but the rifle is a big part obviously.  Once you get your rifle (whatever caliber etc.) dialed in and you can shoot it well, then start expanding your distances.  IMHO, shooting over 1k for fun, then 2 MOA is great, but if you plan on shooting an animal, then you better be able to CONSISTENTLY hit MOA or better.  Keep in mind that MOA at 1k is 10.47 inches, so you can see that it wouldn't be hard to miss a deer/elk or make a poor shot and wound an animal.  That being said I don't think it's an ethical shot.  There are too many external factors for me to shoot an animal that far.  But for target shooting, it's a ton of fun to shoot 1K+ and most rifles are capable of shooting that far fairly well.
just my  :twocents:

No argument with your words here... however, words don't make 1000 yd. ranges appear like magic. There just aren't available to most of us.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2009, 06:12:18 PM »
the gunwerks guns are good guns, but boy are they exspensive!  We have a place to shoot that we can get 1200 yards down to 300 pretty easy, so we shoot there a few times a year for the LR stuff.  We shoot either milk jugs or I made a 1000 yard gong.  It's basically a 1/2 steel plate that hangs from a frame.  There is way more to shooting that far than just the rifle, but the rifle is a big part obviously.  Once you get your rifle (whatever caliber etc.) dialed in and you can shoot it well, then start expanding your distances.  IMHO, shooting over 1k for fun, then 2 MOA is great, but if you plan on shooting an animal, then you better be able to CONSISTENTLY hit MOA or better.  Keep in mind that MOA at 1k is 10.47 inches, so you can see that it wouldn't be hard to miss a deer/elk or make a poor shot and wound an animal.  That being said I don't think it's an ethical shot.  There are too many external factors for me to shoot an animal that far.  But for target shooting, it's a ton of fun to shoot 1K+ and most rifles are capable of shooting that far fairly well.
just my  :twocents:

No argument with your words here... however, words don't make 1000 yd. ranges appear like magic. There just aren't available to most of us.

 There are a couple places on national forest I have found that would work (safely) but I'm pretty sure I would get run off by the rangers if we were seen. Its not illegal but they sure frown on it.

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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #53 on: December 28, 2009, 06:41:49 PM »
I would NEVER attempt to shoot 1000 yds or even in a national forest or Any other open to the public land. Considering a bullet doesn't stop at 1000 yds. there is no way to tell where it would end up or where foot, horse, or quad  trails are. Worst idea I have ever heard of. Shooting activities need to be carried out in the most controlled environment.    :bdid:
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2009, 06:52:16 PM »
I would NEVER attempt to shoot 1000 yds or even in a national forest or Any other open to the public land. Considering a bullet doesn't stop at 1000 yds. there is no way to tell where it would end up or where foot, horse, or quad  trails are. Worst idea I have ever heard of. Shooting activities need to be carried out in the most controlled environment.    :bdid:

 you can't say that if you haven't seen where I'm talking about! Like I said its a safe spot. Just b/c YOU said YOU wouldn't do doesn't mean its unsafe!

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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #55 on: December 28, 2009, 07:08:55 PM »
Steve, just because you say it's safe doesn't mean it's safe to me. I do not intend to make you look bad, I just would never do it. Hell, I sometimes wonder where a bullet goes after it passes through an animal.... what or who was in it's path.

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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #56 on: December 28, 2009, 07:18:58 PM »
Wasn't getting mad, just trying to make it clear, its a safe spot. I agree for the most part, shooting that distance is not always the best idea on public ground. There aren't that many places where you KNOW the path is clear.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2009, 07:44:48 PM »
Hey Steve, I want to see that 30-30 at 1000. :chuckle:  I really dont want to sound like an ass, But, hell, lets see some of these 1000 rifles at 500 meters. Feild trip to Pe Ell would be a lot of fun, For some.  I would really like to try my .260 at 1000 yards.

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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2009, 07:45:59 PM »
There are quite a few bolt action single shot BMG's for under 2K. Very little worry about trajectory.
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Re: Let's build a 1000 YD rifle
« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2009, 04:46:38 AM »
  A 50 BMG is good for traget practice at 1,000 yards. Or if you are a military sniper.  Way to big for a hunting rifle.  Besides, think of the damage that would be done to any animal that got hit with a 50 BMG at any range.  Not alot of meat left....... :dunno:
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