Watched a wolf pack (UPDATE 2-21-10)

[boneaddict]

I'd actually love for someone to show me a picture of a coyote with its tail up flapping in the wind.  I've yet to see that in my lifetime. LOL    I am miserable that I wasn't up there this weekend, but I had to work.   Guys are scooping sheds and wolves are killing everything else.   MAN

[Idabooner]

mulehunter, when there was 2 wolves on the kill they could pretty much hold the eagles off, but when just one wolf and 1 Golden and 3 Bald the wolf would back down.  The wolf made a run at the Golden, they went at it, for a bit it seemed an even match then a bald hit him from behind and the golden would win out.  That happened 3 times, each time the wolf backed down quicker and farther from the kill. As the two hours went along it seemed like it depended how much each had had to eat how much they would fight for a spot. Towards the end the eagles were full and just set near by, when all the wolves left the eagles picked up the bigger scraps and flew off. (looked like guts)

[JackOfAllTrades]

Thank you for telling the particulars Idabooner.

The brush is so thick where the wolves took the carcass to get away from the birds no man would ever go there so nobody would ever find the bones from the kill.

Wrong.. That's where I hunt!   

-Steve

[mulehunter]

Idabooner,    I believe YA! I wish BUT I was working on my project building a Dream Barn for my wife yesterday as I emailed several membership from this site about my project, and today working on moving Chicken house to other spot and add up new wide for 15 more chickens.    Trust me whole the time I was thinking about WISHING I am up there scouting.  Because I have some of experiences knowing whats going on like what you saw. I completely know what your talking about.

Great story Idabooner! Dang your son didnt make this plann for weekend would be BLAST AWSOME PICS!!!  dang...

Mulehunter   

[Rudy]

eastside boy, if Boneaddict says those are wolves than they are wolves.   Considering he has been a member of this site from the beginning and has 2 1/2 years on you.  He has formed a reputation on this site. 

Well.......what do you think the odds are that they are actually Wolves,  anything less than 100% is B.S.   

So considering you were not there to see these coyotes through the spotting scope and take the pictures "in person" can you 100% say these are coyotes?  If not than anything less than 100% is BS!


You sure are trolling.  Makes me wonder what your problem is?  You fall off the top bunk and hit your head?  Or is it just pure entertainment for you to stir the pot and call people out that you don't even know?  Are you trying to prove something with all your smarty pants comments?  Or are you just looking for attention? 

[wolfbait]

Hey Idabooner next time you see the wolves across the way give me a call, I have a special camera mounted on the 270, it is designed to make the pictures sharp and clear, with amazing accuracy. February and march is when the wolves are out looking for some love'n, may the eight have split to start new families. At any rate it sounds like you have the ultimate wolf viewing spot.

[JackOfAllTrades]

if Boneaddict says those are wolves than they are wolves.

If Idabooner says those are Wolves, I'm gonna buy that too!  I believe that it's only a short matter of time before Doug gets good photos himself or sets dad up with a camara/lens capable of the capture.

Do Coyotes kill Deer? You bet, but not normally as a precision hunting team. They are opportunists that will cull out the weak in a herd. The fact that three adult Eagles were present harassing the Wolves is enough to make one feel that the doggies certainly weren't Coyote sized. -As even a large Alpha Coyote is no match for a Golden Eagle. The fact that a hierchy of status was observed when there was one Wolf at the carcas when another Wolf would approach. Coyotes don't hold such status within a pack.

Curious Idabooner,  Is this pack hanging out on the southwest side of the highway (153) or north?  How many miles between their current kill zone and the Manson Sheep summer grounds?

-Steve

[Idabooner]

Jack I'm sure the ones in the pictures were the Look Out Pack, and the 4 I seen yesterday were part of that pack. A couple months ago when Bone got the pictures, the pack split for over an hour, 4 went off and 3 stayed then the 4 came back and all 7 played around until near dark when they disappeared in the canyon.  The alpha male and female went with that 4.  Yesterday I didn't think the alpha's were in that 4. However the #1 I described was the boss and a male, he was the only one I seen marking. #4 acted like a male but I'm not sure.

There's others on here that has kept closer track of their range, I believe this pack runs Libby Cr. and over into Buttermilk, Carlton to  Twisp. I believe there is a pack in the upper Twist River but don't know the boundaries.  There is a pack on Gardner Mt., 9 wolves filed past an outfitter pack string in hunting season about four miles up Wolf Cr.

The wolves we have in the pictures and the ones I watched yesterday were west of 153, near Carlton.

Sorry I'm not familiar with the sheep range.

Duane

[tlbradford]

I'd actually love for someone to show me a picture of a coyote with its tail up flapping in the wind.  I've yet to see that in my lifetime. LOL    I am miserable that I wasn't up there this weekend, but I had to work.   Guys are scooping sheds and wolves are killing everything else.   MAN

I have seen this a couple of times.  No picture, but occasionally they get them up there.  Both times I have seen it is when a single was mousing in an alfalfa field.  They were pretty excited and were eating well.

[Michelle_Nelson]

if Boneaddict says those are wolves than they are wolves.

If Idabooner says those are Wolves, I'm gonna buy that too!

[JackOfAllTrades]

and all 7 played around until near dark when they disappeared in the canyon.

Yeah.. Just like a well grounded family having a good time at board games. 

Lets just hope they don't range farther toward the ridges of North and South Navaire. I don't like the fact that we now have to contend with the wolf for deer hunting seasons. But I would hate to see a couple packs of wolves descimate that sheep herd. 

I haven't heard of livestock attacks in that area since last fall. I suppose because there's been enough deer in winter range for the wolves to eat, but what happens when the need for food makes the wolves more desparate?

-Steve

[MtnMuley]

Thanks for the update Idabooner!  Hopefully you won't ever see them again.

[boneaddict]

I am assuming the alphas are denned up along with maybe an extra female.   Don't know for sure obviously.  I am betting these are subordinates.   I'll get them on film one of these days, I promise.  I'm working on another group up in the NE corner.

[Rudy]

Looking forward to the pictures Bone!

[Idabooner]

Four wolves were back this morning at 7:55.  I was watching the deer, they were acting different. There was 12 in a very tight bunch moving up hill together and looking down, I seen movement around and down from them, grabbed the bino's and sure enough four wolves.  The wolves were moving in the direction the deer had just come from, the wolves were not on the hunt they didn't pay any attention to the deer. There's a dig, possible old coyote den over there, the wolves collected and was playing grab ass around the hole.  Now is my chance to move the spotting scope from the other room, would have been less than one minuet to set up, darn they were gone, I only got to watch them about 5 minuets.  They could have gone back up the direction they came from in a small gut or dropped on into the river bottom. The deer stopped and just watched after a while drifting on over the ridge. I scoured the hill side for 45 minuets with bino's but never seen them again.