Anti's Youtube Video regarding Skagit Elk Hunt

[CP]

A landowner can already get a tag.  All they have to do is wave their damage compensation.

[Mike_D]

I've really wanted to post to these comments to these threads around concrete, and there are a lot of great points including:

definition of hunts
legality vs. ethics
hunters vs. lazy slobs
etc., etc.,

As far as I'm concerned there is no single point to assign blame here...  Blame should go across the board. 

****WDFW for not preventing a gawking circus... (remember he's essentially a peace officer with the appropriate authority)

**** The land owner for not maintaining control

**** the hunters/harvesters for not having brains...

I don't mean to be too sarcastic above , but if WDFW/land owner/harvester had worked together, this wouldn't have looked half as bad....

For example,

landowner managing the number of hunters at one time.... say allowing maybe two hunters at a time out to harvest, then two more, etc. etc.

The WDFW to maintain order, check tags, keep the traffic moving etc....him standing around as far as I'm concerned is not what I'm paying him for...

The hunters to provide a little discretion and efficiency...

I think the problem is trying to assign blame in only one direction when if they had talked and worked together, it might have looked a little bit better, but for the antis- the results would have been only slightly better, and you'd still be seeing the videos.  However, WDFW/landowner would at least have been able to say that they worked closely together, to get the job done as quickly as possible and meet the states/landowners goals.

course, this is only my two cents worth....

[danceswitharrows]

 

[danceswitharrows]

I would also strongly agree with Bearpaws comments that we care more about the animals than the antis.  I would even go so far as to say we care more about the trees than the tree huggers.  I would argue the point that a random ten members from this site has done more for this planet than a random ten from green peace.  We just have differnt managment perspectives and we would not be caught dead in a prius

[singleshot12]

More realistic managment perpectives I would say..most anti's and tree huggers were born and raised in the city.

[danceswitharrows]

100% agree, great word add to an otherwise perfect spiel

[hirshey]

Unfortunately that will never happen. One of the great things about this country is freedom of speech (most times). And that means hearing from a large spectrum of people on many incidents. These types of theatrics so close to a large group of individuals that may or may not understand what hunting means to many of us is simply (and unfortuantly) just ammunition against our hunting privileges.

It is a PRIVILEGE to hunt anymore... its a privilege to be allowed an over-the-counter hunting liscence... its a privilege to be drawn for special permits. It is in our hands as hunters to ensure those privileges continue in the future, and whether we like it or not these kinds of things can have an effect on our hunting seasons/areas.

As much as I hate to admit it, discreetness around those who do not understand or do not care to understand is part of the ethics game anymore. If they don't like it, it doesn't mean they'll turn the other cheek.

Should we not avoid these events if we can see they are about to happen?

People can choose to watch or not to watch.  its up to them.  There is a legitimate reason for these type of hunts.  If you dont like them just drive on by.

[hirshey]

Couldn't agree more, Mike.  couldn't have hit it more dead center myself.

[Hillbilly270]

They say the animals suffer being shot with bow and arrow and it was sad to watch.  Would they rather watch someone shoot thier heads off with an elephant gun so they dont suffer so much?  thier is no winning is there?

[washelkhntr]

Who the hell are you and whay are you on our site? Your time here will be short lived!

[Ray]

I took care of that turd. 

[washelkhntr]

Thank you Ray!

[mountainman1]

This type of killing is just part of life when you live out in the country, the difference was the wrong people had to see it. These people don't hace a clue about the real life.Living in the mountains its just a way of life,  :yike:better than living in the big cities where some people hunt each other. I don't see them anti's running in downtown Seattle trying to stop people from hunting each other..

[rawhide]

Its a dam good thing no one watched (video) my pig die this year..

[haus]

This type of killing is just part of life when you live out in the country, the difference was the wrong people had to see it.

O'rly. The flinging arrows willy nilly at a bunch of elk your chasing around in a pasture? Can't say I've seen that. Saw it during muzzy season once just down the way from our place, was many years ago. Don't really get the point, it looked like killin' livestock for fun to me, it sure as hell didn't look like huntin'.