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Offline EastWaViking

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #105 on: October 22, 2008, 09:27:18 AM »
I would feel much safer with a side arm!  There are enough close encounters every year to warrant the passing of a law to allow it.

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #106 on: October 24, 2008, 10:59:46 PM »
Here's some pictures that will make you think, this dude was bowhunting in Wyoming this year and got attacked by a grizz while elk hunting.  Luckily his dad was a damn good archer.
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Ron amazingly came through with non life threatening injuries. 

Ron, who is an experienced hunter and used to be a guide, was calling an elk for his dad, who was down hill 40 yards.  The elk suddenly spooked and then Ron heard a noise behind him.  He turned around and a grizzly was 15 feet behind him.  He tried to shoo it away but it proceeded toward him.  He went behind a tree and the bear kept coming, so he took off on his "death run" down hill towards his dad.  With the grizzly just feet behind his son, and running full speed, Ron's dad shot one arrow.  Ron saw the arrow fly by his leg, unsure of whether it hit the bear, and within a few more steps, Ron was on his back with the grizzly on top of him.  With is arms shielding his head, Ron kicked and punched the bear with all he had.  Ron said it all went too fast and he was so full of adrenaline, he could not feel any pain at the time of the attack.  When the bear continued to attack, Ron's dad, could see that the bear was bleeding badly from the arrow, and he went over and started beating on the bear with his bow(You can not carry guns during bow hunting, so he had nothing to shoot it).  The bear continued to attack Ron, biting clear through his left hand and glove, and down to the bone of his right arm just below the elbow.  Then the bear, stopped, looking at Ron's dad, walked away several yards, and rolled over dead.

The bear was autopsied and showed that it was well over 500 lbs(the grizzlies in that area average 350lbs) and 11 years old(which is in it's prime).  Following the path of the arrow, the autopsy showed that the arrow went in, hit a main artery, then bent, and hit the heart!

A one in a thousand shot they said.

Another important fact to mention and that gave me chills is that Ron's dad had had surgery on his arm, because he had injured his arm and was not even able to pull the bow last season.  This was to be his big hunt, and before the day of the attack, he had already missed two elk that were standing still.  The morning of the attack, Ron's dad (also named Ron), prayed "God please guide my arrow today".

Little did Ron Sr. and Ron know how God would guide his arrow that day! 
 
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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #107 on: October 29, 2008, 08:25:36 AM »
Beyond the safety issue, beyond all the other pro or cons I have a god given right to carry my gun anytime, anywhere, I will not respect any law designed to relive me of said god given rights, i will not respect laws designed around the idea that i cant be trusted to honor my god given rights and might do something wrong. IMHO the goverment does not have the right or power to take any of my rights.
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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #108 on: October 29, 2008, 08:41:53 AM »
Skynyr - amazing story.  Thanks for posting it......and those pics are awesome too.

Ron Sr. had some big balls to make that shot at a charging bear.
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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #109 on: November 03, 2008, 08:19:33 PM »
Skynyr - amazing story.  Thanks for posting it......and those pics are awesome too.

Ron Sr. had some big balls to make that shot at a charging bear.



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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #110 on: November 07, 2008, 05:21:16 PM »
I always carry a sidearm while bowhunting.  Its my second amendment right.  If there is any code, rule, or law against that then it is not above the constitution and should be thrown out.

Protection is the reason.  I don't see why any bowhunter would us a sidearm for target shooting at midday or anything like that.

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #111 on: November 07, 2008, 05:29:18 PM »
BIG TICKET. I always had a small 357 with me,

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #112 on: November 07, 2008, 11:00:57 PM »
BIG TICKET. I always had a small 357 with me,

I would think that someone could take that "BIG TICKET" all the way to the supreme court one of these days.  "RASBO VS THE STATE OF WASHINGTON"

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #113 on: November 08, 2008, 06:25:24 AM »
BIG TICKET. I always had a small 357 with me,

I would think that someone could take that "BIG TICKET" all the way to the supreme court one of these days.  "RASBO VS THE STATE OF WASHINGTON"
I have a cwp dont bow hunt nomore,it would be intresting to find out. I would still pack though

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #114 on: November 11, 2008, 09:33:01 AM »
I carry anytime I'm in the woods, even during bow season.  I have a CWP, but that technically does not cover you while bow hunting.  I carry for multiple reasons: a) bears and cats, b) two legged critters - I have walked into the middle of a pot grow before, there are a lot of meth maggots out there, and I'm pretty sure if you loose your right to own firearms (convicted criminal) you can still carry a bow, and c) no one can hear those three arrows you just shot into the air as a sign of distress.
 
Mine is buried in my fanny pack, so it's not like I'm going to whip it out and shoot that big bull with it instead of the bow........


I've seen some where that a gentleman in Oregon was cited a couple of years ago for carrying during bow season down there, He took it to court and won.

 
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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #115 on: November 11, 2008, 09:39:50 AM »
I thought it was legal to carry a sidearm during archery season in OR...

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #116 on: November 11, 2008, 11:02:06 AM »
I carry anytime I'm in the woods, even during bow season.  I have a CWP, but that technically does not cover you while bow hunting.  I carry for multiple reasons: a) bears and cats, b) two legged critters - 
 
Mine is buried in my fanny pack, so it's not like I'm going to whip it out and shoot that big bull with it instead of the bow........


Buried in your pack is not going to help in an emergency.




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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #117 on: November 16, 2008, 10:40:55 AM »
I say carry the gun. I personally have found a pot grow operation during modern rifle season, and had I been hunting bow, I would have been facing off with drug growers. I would carry. Some laws are made to be broken (never thought i would hear myself say that  :dunno:  ) but your personal defense trumps state law in my opinion... 

Ice you are 100% right on the money, (I carry).

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #118 on: November 18, 2008, 01:21:09 PM »
though its our second amendmant right...to carry

hunting is not a right its a privalige. and its the same as us not being able to carry in schools, courts, etc. etc. i could argue that there are court deputies that could suddenly snap and go on a shooting rampage therefore i should be able to carry a firearm in a court house for my own protection.  :chuckle:

i still feel we should be able to carry if we want to while archery and muzzleloader hunting.

think about all the hikers who are out with thier sidearms, they could just as easily poach an animal. same goes for guys during modern firearm season with a semi auto on their hip...those are not legal weapons for hunting therefore they could just as easily poach an animal at close range with that aswell. though it may be a legal caliber it is still poaching if they kill thier animal with a semiauto handgun.

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Re: Sidearms in the Archery Season
« Reply #119 on: November 18, 2008, 01:55:24 PM »
There is no restriction on using semi-auto handguns for hunting in modern season.

 


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