Permit Change

[fc2038]

Yea I just read the other big thread and saw the e-mail sent back from Dave. Looks like that is not going to be they way they are going to go. I guess we are just going  to have to wait and see what they are going to do. I guess me and my cousin will stew over this on Sunday in the duck blind......

[mulehunter]

They should open 6th county hound hunting permit in Dayton!  WDFW Biologlist I talked with He Collared 11 Cougars from Dec 09 thur Jan 2010. 

Mulehunter 

[Curly]

Yeah, if they got rid of the a lot of the cougars and all the wolves there would be more deer and elk available for harvest, thus more permits and better chance of drawing..........there problem solved.

[mulehunter]

Yeah, if they got rid of the a lot of the cougars and all the wolves there would be more deer and elk available for harvest, thus more permits and better chance of drawing..........there problem solved.

 

Mulehunter   

[bobcat]

But "they" can't get rid of cougars  and wolves. It's not an option. There are laws that can't be changed, at least not by the WDFW. Stop dreaming guys.

[Curly]

I was just pointing out the best way to make hunters happy and WDFW to gain more revenue.  If deer and elk populations were higher everybody would be happy.

[bobcat]

I know. But the only tool the WDFW has to increase deer and elk is to reduce the number of hunters.

[high country]

I know. But the only tool the WDFW has to increase deer and elk is to reduce the number of hunters.

or their success. afterall our 72 hour elk season is pretty long.

[ICEMAN]

Honestly, I do not feel that anything wildlife does is designed to increase deer and elk numbers, but rather the opposite.

Let's face it, Wildlife wants less deer, less elk, less hunters, more wolves, more money. They want the cash and want the wolves to manage the herds.

I say scrap the weighted system for everyone. I would rather they increase the cost of the permit app, and go back to the earlier system with no points. This weighted draw has just been a cash cow for the state. I liked it better when most unscrupulous hunters forgot or missed the app deadline and I had a better chance of getting drawn. I am greedy and selfish.

[Bigshooter]

I voted not sure.  I think most of you guys are getting to worked up about this without knowing all the details.  I'm not saying that it won't be bad but, WDFW has given out very little information about how this is going to work.  I will make a decision after I find out all the details.

Hmm. You don't think 8 categories, points distributed across the board or tougher odds are worth getting "worked up" over?

It is clearly stated that those things could happen.

You know for sure that odds will be "tougher".  I don't think they have given us enough information to come to the conclusion that odds will be tougher. 

[groundhog]

In the past a lot of folks would for one reason or another decide to put Cow hunts down as one or more of their Elk choices. When they got drawn they lost their Elk points. Each year hundreds of folks drew cow tags and lost their points. Making it a little easier for the guys looking for a bull tag.
 In the new system everyone retains their Bull points until they draw a Bull tag. To me it sounds like it just got tougher to draw that tag. Am I missing something?

[huntnphool]

You're not missing anything Groundhog, spot on.

[billythekidrock]

I voted not sure.  I think most of you guys are getting to worked up about this without knowing all the details.  I'm not saying that it won't be bad but, WDFW has given out very little information about how this is going to work.  I will make a decision after I find out all the details.

Hmm. You don't think 8 categories, points distributed across the board or tougher odds are worth getting "worked up" over?

It is clearly stated that those things could happen.

You know for sure that odds will be "tougher".  I don't think they have given us enough information to come to the conclusion that odds will be tougher.  

How can they not get tougher given the scenerio two posts up?

[Bigshooter]

I voted not sure.  I think most of you guys are getting to worked up about this without knowing all the details.  I'm not saying that it won't be bad but, WDFW has given out very little information about how this is going to work.  I will make a decision after I find out all the details.

Hmm. You don't think 8 categories, points distributed across the board or tougher odds are worth getting "worked up" over?

It is clearly stated that those things could happen.

You know for sure that odds will be "tougher".  I don't think they have given us enough information to come to the conclusion that odds will be tougher.  

How can they not get tougher given the scenerio two posts up?

If you want to assume that everyone puts a couple of cow choices down then your most likely right.  And I don't think this is spot on.  I don't think that it is even close to how the majority of people apply for permits.  Of all the guys that I know that apply for elk permits every year this would not be the case 9 times out of 10.

[huntnphool]

I don't think that it is even close to how the majority of people apply for permits.

 The way people have handled their permit choices in the past will be completely different now, IMO. To each his own Bigshooter, you and your buddies are free to continue to apply the same way that you have for ever. I find it hard to believe that if you and your buddies are given free points in additional choices that you will simply not use them, maybe I'm wrong.